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Pupper InterloperTell me about your dog.
I love my baby so much. She follows me around all day long. She loves her toys and I love watching her play with them. She greets me like she hasn't seen in me in six months... every time. She is very spoiled because she is used to people instantly loving her but she understands the rules of the house so she is a very good girl.
She protected me from a creepy man at the park where I walk her. He got way too close and tried to be aggressive with me because I didn't accept his advances. She sensed my discomfort and barked at him and he left me alone almost instantly. She has a scary bark. She knows when I'm sick or sad. If I'm sick, she's extra good. If I'm sad, she sniffs my face, gives me a couple of small licks, and lays down next to me in what I interpret as a loving and gently protective manner. She's my first dog and I am learning a lot.
That's the impression I've had for some time now : All the left-leaning men who support trans woMEN invading women's spaces have the hope at the back of their minds, If trans women can force lesbians to have sex with them, maybe someday that means I can coerce young girls with impunity-!
It reminds me of how, back in the late 1990s/early 00s, every article about a woman being assaulted by a cat caller or girl murdered for turning down a date request for prom, etc etc, got comments on them like, Maybe this will make girls say yes to at least 40% of the men who ask them out! Seriously. Every article that allowed comments that I read back then re: women being assaulted by angry "suitors" (gag!) had MULTIPLE such comments.
As for right-leaning men : They are STILL convinced that any obvious man they see in a dress, wig, and makeup is a "tranny faggot" (to use their own preferred term), and THEY are the ones at risk from them, not their wives, daughters, or any random woman they can corner in a restroom, shower room, shelter, prison cell...
I'm not sure it's related. Hear me out here.
Yes, a lot of TRA men are predators. But a lot of men are predators. My ex, who raped me, is very anti-TRA and thinks they're all creeps. I think it's probably just that a lot of men are predators so a lot of the men in any camp are going to be predators.
The predators come in different shapes and sizes, and have found ways to cloak themselves in our society.
I hope you are well.
To be fair Biden has already been outed as a predator. His accuser’s name is Tara Reade for anyone who wants to look into it. In my opinion she seemed very credible, but sadly her story was swept under the rug.
In any case, I’m really sorry to hear about this experience, OP. As a fellow U.K. TERF, I feel your pain. Thanks for sticking up for us, and keep fighting the good fight.
thats interesting, I don't really watch TV but when ever I see him he has this strong creepy keep the kids away from him vibe
Sadly, many self-described "liberals" (including a few women here on Ovarit) discounted Tara Reade's story despite the evidence and accused her of being a lying whore being paid off by Russia and/or the Republicans. All because they cared more about getting Biden elected than not putting yet another male rapist into the White House
I will look into that about Biden!
Thankyou 💚 you too! It’s frustrating and dystopian but I think, slowly, the tide is starting to turn! I feel especially sorry for sisters in other countries (esp Canada) which seem totally captured by this insanity :/
I don't think it's a coincidence that so many men went all-in on twanz following MeToo. I think a hell of a lot of them were very nervous about the brief trend to actually give weight to women's accounts of male sexual misconduct, thought it went 'too far,' and were relieved to have this they could use to shut women down, silence us, derail, and accuse us of being too privileged for our voices to carry more weight than male ones on sexism. And could use this to punish us, sink back into being as misogynistic as they feel like while we're hobbled on calling them out on it. and can get away with stopping pretending to care about women's issues, because the "women" who are "most oppressed" conveniently don't really share any of those issues. And most of them don't have to change their habitual behavior in daily real life, because most of them aren't surrounded by TIMs, unlike women, and they don't have years of ingrained conditioning to "unlearn" around them.
(Not that I'd go so far as to say it's a conscious thing for most of them exactly, more settling back into their comfort zone with a new twist).
Man defends TIM= "tell me you watch trans porn without telling me you watch trans porn".
Most of this men would die before being called "gay" so they need to follow the TWAW mantra.
I think you’re spot on here. Not gay if the dude is disguised as a woman, right?
Men have always prioritized other men. In fact, it is testament to the fact that they actually don't believe TWAW when they go full TRA and shout down women.
And this is far from me just making it up - look at how much more advanced bottom surgery is for TIMs than for TIFs. That is because even in much more conservatives times, decades ago, men still managed to find doctors who would believe them, treat them, and establish best practices. Exactly because they were perceived as fellow men.
Exactly, if anyone really believed they were women, the ideology would never have captured so many institutions so quickly. MRAs would jeer at them same as feminists. Oh “trans women” are oppressed? Shut up, b$Tch, go cry some more lol, is what they’d say. Misogyny and women’s oppression is hotly contested yet “transmisogyny” is accepted without question.
Everyone- and I mean EVERYONE- knows who the men are.
Can you elaborate on the differences in bottom surgery bc as far as I could tell, bottom surgery is a total disaster for both tims and tifs lol
Pic of a neovagina (search "penile inversion" for more): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginoplasty#/media/File:Neovagina_-_penile_inversion_vaginoplasty.png
Pic of a phalloplasty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalloplasty#/media/File:Phalloplasty-Artificial_male_genitals_on_grey_background.jpg
Neither are very convincing, but look at how mangled that woman is from the grafting taken from her hip, and the result is that.
"It's easier to make a hole than a pole"
Ya know, that's a good point..if so-called "neovags" are the same as real vaginas (as they claim) than how come you can't pull out a vagina and make a "neopenis"?🤔
IIRC, the rate of complications for TIM penile inversion is ~60 percent. For TIFs the rate is more than 90 percent.
Any man that supports this insanity can not possibly care about women's boundaries, (or women for that matter) so I would say that's a fair assessment.
But there are some that I do think know better, but they are too cowardly to speak up bc it goes against the lefty rule book. These types of men are usually very easy to spot because when pressed, they usually fall back on the notorious " wellll, there just needs to be a conversation... " copout.🙄
And then there are the men that will never admit it, but deep down they are just all too happy that this whole mess has fallen into our laps and they don't have to deal with it themselves. Men have always hidden behind the legs of women like little kids when they don't want to deal with their own. And I think there is an element of homophobia too..like, it's so obvious they would much rather have tims in our spaces than theirs.."no, no, no you take them! Their real women ya see! They don't belong over here!"..I mean, you sure af never hear them offering up anything from their side of the fence despite being so passionate about trans rights.. not even to the tifs and they're not even a threat.
I genuinely think some men find it hilarious. The anguish of women over men destroying what we have fought for centuries to achieve...they are gleeful and, woefully, laughably ignorant “this is what the feminists wanted haha”
I mean, fuck us for wanting rights and dignity, right? What kind of dimwitted fuck actually thinks feminists want men colonising our spaces and dismantling our safety?
Oh, for sure. They are having a field day with this..they can hardly believe their luck.
Yeah, they say the first rule of politics is follow the money, but it's not. The first rule of politics is actually follow the penis.
It’s a way of virtue signaling without one, helping women or really anyone else except other men, and two, making much effort.
To be a TRA, all you really have to do is talk about what a TRA you are and how much you hate TERFs. So no loss of time, energy or money there.
You also get the satisfaction of seeing women get beat on while hiding behind “trans rights” as a shield.
Lastly, you’re seeing men trample women, and those men love that.
It’s kinda funny how one of the biggest proofs that TIMs aren’t women is that other men respect them.
This is my experience as well. My former male friend was always very vocal about his feminist beliefs, was a devoted husband, had mostly female friends and was quite proud of how progressive he was and how much he was one of the good men. He was always really flirtatious with everyone but it seemed like he just was generally like that. I started to push back on some of the gender stuff and he wouldn't hear it. I showed him and his wife some of the frankly bizarre TIMs who had been popping up in my online dating adventures and he got into a huff and walked away. They got into polyamory after that (I think he groomed his wife into it) and he ran off with another lady. He wasn't anything like who I thought he was, in the end.
OH ABSOLUTELY! In my opinion, men who support gender ideology fall into 3 categories:
I mean...we already know Biden has a history of bad touch with both grown women and little girls. And one woman accused him of rape (before all the libfems wrote her off as a lying whore being paid off by Russia)
The trans issue is a godsend to misogynistic liberal men because it gives them carte blanche to lob as much misogynistic abuse at a woman as they like if she expresses "TERF opinions" (which can apply to any woman asserting basic boundaries)
Yep. Biggest misogynist I know (who I believe also may consume child porn, but haven't been able to prove) is a staunch and fierce TIM defender.
Does this individual’s name start with a V?
Nah, this dude's name is actually Chad. Which never stops amusing me since he's the biggest tool I've ever met and has the ultimate tool name.
Validates the position that this whole trans epidemic is really about males extending their colonizing instinct into the female frontier.
Yes, it is a complete men’s rights movement, supported by misogynist men and their handmaidens.
Informal theory: a lot of men defend TW because they are secretly (or not even secretly) chasers.
Sexual predation often goes hand in hand with paraphilias, one of which is being super into ladyboys.
Yeah this was Vaush. I listened to his channel a few times back when I was into Breadtube but looking for “non-woke” leftists. But I quickly unsubscribed because I realized he caped so hard for TIMs because they made his dick hard. That’s pretty much it.
So many “leftist” mens politics begin and end with their dicks and it’s tiresome.
So many men's everything begins and ends with their dicks lol I hate men
I think it's just "Men are often predatory" regardless, but yeah they'll always defend their fellow predators.
yeah, i mean i believe Tara Reid and there are some pretty predatory video of Biden touching kids out there.
I'm just going to say it and I don't care how it's interpreted: I pretty much always believe women when they accuse a man of sexual assault or some other sexual offence.
I know how men are. I know what they're capable of, what they desire, and how they collude together to protect each other and smear women. I literally have no reason NOT to believe the woman.
Oh, and for the record: every man I've known who has whined about being "falsely accused"? Yeah, they weren't falsely accused, they fucking did it. It's always some grody piece of shit who ignores boundaries, constantly pester women, makes lewd and crude comments about women, etc. He typically lives on energy drinks and narcissistic rage.
I’m the same. False accusations are vanishingly rare. Male predation is abundant.
ME TOO. I even take it a step further. All men are guilty until proven innocent to me. But if one has allegations? Yeah he’s a fucking rapist without a doubt. Women basically never lie about this.
no, but men LOVE to joke about it. I took a guy to bed one night - literally said "you wanna come upstairs with me?" and he nodded and I said "okay go wait upstairs for me while I smoke some pot real quick" and he lITERALLY, LITERALLY RAN UP TO WAIT FOR ME.
the next I hear, he's defending himself to a friend of his who wanted to sleep with me by saying "she basically dragged me upstairs and raped me."
so yeah. fuck men and their whiney bullshit about false accusations.
To them rape is flattering. He’s using that to brag to his friend how much you wanted him and what a conquest he made. Men don’t have problems like we do. They should be totally excluded from conversations about sexual misconduct for that reason.
For real. 96% of women are telling the truth. Only 4% lie, and I think that number of liars is probably even lower bc you know there are women who are pressured by family or religious or work or financial reasons to rescind their accusation.
In my totally non scientific and uneducated opinion I would say 98 or 99% of women are telling the truth. Especially since society almost always looks down more on the woman and she suffers far more socially after a rape accusation than the dude
Yep. Only point of clarification I want to make is that all too often the guy accused is in good community standing, be it politically, religiously, etc. not the obviously grody guy in his basement. Sometimes the man is perceived by the public as a good guy, or his publicly known misdeeds are minor, easily excusable due to all the good he’s done. Maybe his wife is even in a powerful position- “he’s such a feminist!!” They know how to target victims who they believe will not speak up, or if they speak up, will be discredited and destroyed. There are violent, egotistical men that know how to hide in plain sight.
I believe women bc most of the time subconsciously or not people judge you when you tell what happened to you. Like if you were to be shamed for it. Even if you were a kid you were supposed to control adult men actions. When you are a student and he was a professor, when you work and it was your boss. So why would we invent something that at least makes us look bad and lose social points. I was judged when a male hit me on the face in the subway. Bc someone laughed at him He hit me bc I was close. Half of my High School students found it funny and were mean even though I didn't tell them them anything about it but had a bruise in the cheekbone/eye.
I had a black eye once because a cab door which was loose on its hinges swung and hit me in the eye socket. Men at my work found it utterly hilarious and wanted to know if my "boyfriend" had walloped me one. (Actually, I'm a lesbian.)
Sorry that you had men (mean) coworkers. I don't think is only a "joke" deep down most of them feel that is perfectly fine that women are beaten or get hurt. And they think is a reinforcement of the natural order. Porn seems to have programmed them lately to be even worse.
I'm sorry that happened. It reminds me of this article about Amber heard, even true allegations are career ending for women so why would anyone lie.
Many people, men included, are largely unaware of exactly what is going on. I won't assume someone is a predaror just because they do the popular thing of defending gender ideology. Many female friends I have also defend it. They aren't bad people, they just want to do right by others. Of course you're right that predators are using this movement to their advantage.
Exactly. My husband used to be pro-TRA until I started talking to him about it, and he isn't a predator. He just wasn't aware.
Mine too. He just thought he was supporting gay people. It took a while but over a course of several months when we were dating he became a TERF ally
Men who defend TiMs hide under the guise of "inclusivity" and "progression" and being Knights for "minorities" and they believe in "equality" and "feminism" and all those virtual signaling word salads they love to repeat. But they are narcissists who hate women. These are the real predators we need to watch out for, they have listened to the media and whats a socially acceptable way to behave. Behind closed doors they are as misogynistic and hateful of women as the fathers that raised them who beat their mothers in front of them.
Straight up, the man who stalked me and molested me back when I was a teen is now a staunch TRA supporter and is even married to a heterosexual, nb TIF who thinks being a non-woman means being ultra girly 90% of the time and 10% of the time being ultra girly...but wearing jeans, because women dont wear pants, apparently.
Other dude I know who raped at least 3 women horror movie style and escaped with a slap on the wrist is ALSO a huge supporter of men in women's spaces.
This is not a coincidence. It is 100% by design.
It’s really chilling. Any decent man would be horrified at the idea of changing around young girls. Only perverts would want to.
That's fucking horrifying