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Need Advice or Supportcultivating a less toxic space online
Posted April 2, 2024 by magicianly7 in Women

i practice digital art and a small amount of animation as a hobby and for years, up until around this past october-december, i’d had a moderate audience on twitter and regularly took commissions. i mostly draw women, landscapes, fanart, ocs, sometimes cute animals, etc. it was both great fun, and a nice way to make a consistent bit of side income to treat myself and so on.

lots of things had been going on with me, but the one thing i think really broke me was after october 7th happened and people i’d known for years were mocking israeli women for what they went through, saying they deserved what they got for being “colonizers” etc, with not even a day of waiting for all their bodies to be found. i’m not jewish but it shook me to the core to hear from people i thought i could trust. i’d always been a “secret radfem” and disagreed with a lot of leftist (male-centered) talking points anyway, but this was it for me.

these were people i’d gifted art to as friends. people i’d done commissions for, spent loving hours on to get it as true to their vision as i could for them, and i felt disgusted that i ever took their money. i ended up blocking half of everyone i knew, and i was too paranoid about those who remained to continue posting.

i’ll be real: it has made me not want to draw at all in the months since, which is sad because it was a great passion for me. i love sharing, i love collaborating with writers for example and illustrating their stories. i love doing zines and things like secret santa exchanges. i liked making prints for people to buy, and felt proud whenever i made a physical sale, like just the fact that people actually wanted something i made in their homes. fundamentally, i like art as a community thing. i’ve only just started drawing something again at a trusted IRL friend’s prompting.

and i want to eventually start making small games, like on itch.io… i had big ideas lined up, and all the time i wish i could dip my toes back into it again, and i have set up an account to maybe start from scratch with, but i feel so wary.

it’s partially my own fault, and all; i let myself be surrounded by TRAs and handmaidens and deranged leftists because they were often the ones drawn to my side of fandom. it was “easy.” then, they showed their true selves. the undeniable fact that they’ll never be there for women, even if many women open themselves up to them so freely. i never want to sell myself out like that again.

i’ve been considering what to do this time. explicitly say i’m a radfem? i actually was partially doxxed by a TRA at the end (an ex friend who had commissioned me, and whom i had donated to in hard times. lmao. i keep a separate paypal without my name on it for commissions, but she got it from my personal one :’) but we “”luckily”” came to a truce and she removed it, but…) because i went mask off briefly, but i’m not scared, tbh.

i’d just find it more annoying than anything to have my comment sections unfortunately filled up with weirdos like redkatherine’s was (a TERF artist i always secretly admired), instead of real discussion and collaboration. it’d be fun to make outright radfem art and stickers and so on, though.

my only other idea is to quietly start out with things TRAs will probably naturally just avoid, like some harry potter art (i’ve really been enjoying the game). whatever they’ve “called out” really that i happen to also enjoy lmao

it anyone’s done this or has any advice, or maybe if you know any radfem artists online (of course not to expose anyone if they’re not “out”.. sad we have to think that way, huh?) i could huddle around, i’d really appreciate it :) social media is tough to navigate… especially when you want to have a small side project that would sorta depend on interaction and stuff. woof, sorry, i’m always making long posts but i wanted to cover all my main points

15 comments

TomyrisJuly 5, 2023

In my area, every lesbian I know is involved in team sports (no matter how casual), animal rescue, or both.

Forget apps, forget anything advertised as being for lesbians or "LGBTQ" - both will be crawling with men at this point.

Good luck and have fun!

goatsauceJuly 5, 2023

I have been involved with animal rescue, but at least here, it seems to skew much older than me. Lots of retirees, though! I'm also involved in local environmental groups, which I have met lesbians there but no one I clicked with. It sounds like team sports is my last safe haven, then!

ItsCalculatedLesbian=Female HomosexualJuly 4, 2023

You said you're fit, so if you can get into the team sports crowd in your area that is a place that there are always lesbians and often of all ages, including your age. Softball, soccer, hockey, volleyball, all seem to always have lesbians. Even if you don't meet anyone while participating, I bet they also have friends that might fit your fancy. Go make friends and connections. Meeting women this way has the added perk of expanding your friend circle, too.

At this point I think the internet is one of the last places for meeting women. It's too much under the control of men and handmaidens. Real life seems to be where it's at, and sports are a huge draw for the lesbian community in my experience.

goatsauceJuly 4, 2023

Not a bad idea! I suck at sports, but the local women's soccer scene was pretty gay until COVID hit. I'll have to see if they've started up again, though I might have missed my window for this summer.

AlagraJuly 22, 2023

I'm in the same boat, but more for finding lesbian friendships. Everything is TIM or "non binary" catering, and it's insane

goatsauceJuly 22, 2023

I'm going to a lesbian event tomorrow night, so we'll see if I can conjure up anyone IRL who's not nonbinary or right out of college. The event stressed that it was "inclusive", so I might be in my personal hell, but I've already deleted HER off my phone and I'm ignoring Bumble altogether.

graciasperonoJuly 5, 2023

Just chiming in with another vote for women's sports. Great way to make friends and meet other lesbians. A woman I dated was involved in casual local women's sports teams and she had quite the network. Great way to get sunshine and exercise, too. I want to try my hand at it again. I had a lot of fun with her.

goatsauceJuly 6, 2023

I wish I was the least bit good at sports! I'm also a femme looking for another femme, so I might be barking up the wrong tree with sports honestly, but there is something really appealing about a sporty lady with long pretty hair lol. I looked into what sports I have locally available, and there's men's softball and coed softball. Women's softball is mentioned, but seems to have been swallowed by the coed softball category. Hm, I wonder why that would be.......

kewlgaylJuly 6, 2023

I feel you on the sports thing. I’m very short and skinny with some physical issues so I wouldn’t be able to go that route to find and connect with other lesbians.

I'm also a femme looking for another femme

Same for me as well, mostly.

maypearlJuly 4, 2023

I would've said that you should try roller derby tournaments, but those have been infiltrated by TIMs, gender specials and beer-guzzling straight men wanting to see women in booty shorts (at least where I am).

goatsauceJuly 4, 2023

Yes, the local roller derby is entirely captured. One of my neighbors participates. Her house is covered in rainbow flags, but she's in a long term heterosexual marriage. Maybe she's bisexual, but her house is still gayer than mine has ever been. The other women I know in roller derby are similarly paired up with men or are very on board with the gender manifesto.

PenthesileaJuly 6, 2023

I was gonna reach out and recommend the MichFest reunion if you hadn't already posted about it. Def recommend it for meeting other lesbians. If anyone reading this wants more info on it, pm me! I went last year.

XephyrrJuly 5, 2023

MichFest is doing a reunion?

PenthesileaJuly 6, 2023

PM me for more info!

goatsauceJuly 6, 2023

The Michigan Framily Reunion! It's much smaller, but it's still a nice time!