
Two thoughts re risk:
If you're overweight then anything to reduce that weight can be a health benefit. Ozempic has risks but the benefits are considered worth that risk for patients prescribed it
There is some encouraging evidence that intermittent fasting can make chemo more effective and reduce its side effects in some cancer patients
For what it's worth, I've been doing IF (most usually a full dawn-to-dusk/36 hours, but also some 2-day and 3-day fasts) for the past few years, and it has not noticeably disrupted my menstrual cycle.
Thanks for sharing these important insights.
My partner had cancer a couple of years ago, and he tried IF with his chemo regime. We don't know if it made a difference but he's still clear thank god.
The mechanism is interesting: supposedly it makes cancer cells more vulnerable to the chemo while making healthy cells more resistant to damage.
I've been considering intermittent fasting as the next new habit to build, but after reading this I realize it's a bit more complicated for women. Unfortunately the post was written through a lens of gender ideology, so be forewarned. It does helpfully outline some interesting info concerning the best times to fast if you still menstruate (best times are during your period and the week after, otherwise you risk a cortisol spike if you do it the week leading up to your period). And it suggests women ease into a fasting program and err toward a longer eating window.
Just thought I'd share here in case anyone else is interested. And if you've been practicing intermittent fasting yourself, how is it going for you? Did you already know this information re: the menstrual cycle?
I’ve tried IF (the “skipping breakfast” version) a few times. Every time, after a few days or a week, I notice that I’m having a hard time falling asleep. I am already prone to insomnia, I really don’t need any extra help on that front. I have read plenty of comments on the internet from people saying they had the same experience with IF and sleep. (Now I’m wondering if those commenters were all/mostly women?) I assume the IF/insomnia relationship is a cortisol thing, but I haven’t found any actual research to back that up.
I do find that my digestion benefits from a long recovery window, so now I have breakfast at the usual time but try not to eat anything else after about 5 PM. This still works out to a 16:8 schedule but doesn’t seem to trigger the same cortisol response. I do notice it creeping back in if I have a few days of finishing dinner by 3 or 4 or missing breakfast.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I tend to sleep lightly and wake in the middle of the night, so it's good to know it could affect my sleep. I may still try it, but I'll track my sleep as well.
I cannot fathom how fasting would be a good idea during my period. I get insanely anemic and want to gnaw my own arm off I get so hungry. My body craves red meat and protein during my period in a very different way to the rest of the month. It's honestly just about my only period symptom - FEED ME! :-)
Ha I hear you. I can get like this too, but usually a couple of days before it starts.
thx for that info. i'd heard about risk of cortisol spike, but not in relation to periods. probably because i follow gurus who heavily target menopausal women. i've heard the same reason given for avoiding the cold plunging trend. we women are stressed enough already. by all means hit the sauna and relax, but forcing yourself to sit in a cold pool is unnecessary. i like a quick dip after a hot tub but the women who can just sit in a cold pool for several minutes scare me 😆
i used to do more restrictive fasting, but now i just try to stick to a sun-up to sundown window. don't skip breakfast, ladies!
I was recommended to try IF by my doctor but digestive issues that require timed medication doses prevent me using it. I'm looking into something called 5:2 fasting, which has you limit calories on two days of the week (your choice of days) to 500 calories a day for women, 600 for men. It seems fairly simple and straightforward, so I may try it starting next week. A tiny meal with my meds works better than no meal in the morning.
I have been doing one day per week of 500 calories for years. I like it. And I think it has really helped me maintain my weight as I have gotten older. Plus I always feel better the next day. I can't pull off a second day of 500, but I try to keep it light, around 1000 on the second day.
honestly that doesn't sound sustainable. 500 calories for a whole day, 2 days a week is so little. you will be exhausted and starving. it's better to just cut back a little each day. even 100-200 calories.
There's a very similar diet that restricts calories on three days, but not as severely.
Bottom line is.. if you have less calories going in than going out, you'll lose weight. Simple restriction diets are a LOT easier for people on limited budgets, too.
Something feels very off about this article... it feels like they are referencing prior research about fasting and applying that to intermittent fasting. "Fasting" usually refers to people going several days without food. It would make sense why that would fuck with hormones. It seems highly dubious that those findings would extend to periods shorter than 24 hours.
Regarding the difference in benefits for women and men... this does make sense. Women's bodies are better at storing fat. We have slower metabolisms. There was some research that showed that "carb loading" the night before a race did not work for female marathoners and to get the same result they had to carb load over several days. Likewise, women were not able to replenish themselves during the race with gu's because we digest and absorb it slower.
I personally am someone who was doing "intermittent fasting" most of the time before it had a name or became a fad simply because that is when my body wanted food. I see that as the key... too many people eat at specific times and eat three meals a day simply because that's what society told them they need instead of following their body's needs. I suspect those who benefit from intermittent fasting are people like me.
It would be so much better if we helped people learn to recognize when they are hungry (and not eating otherwise!) and what their body actually needs instead of giving people diet advice. The article mentions that breastfeeding women shouldn't do intermittent fasting and teaching people to follow their bodies would help keep people from making mistakes like that and recognizing when they might need more or less.
I agree. IF is not a fast-fast and a typical 16:8 or even 20:4 wouldn't do much to you. There are many people, women included, who naturally do IF because they either aren't hungry in the mornings or they don't have time/can't be bothered and there are literally no health risks from doing that. if there were we would have known about it a long time ago. Even kids going to school might unintentionally do IF, there are a lot of night owls struggling to wake up at 7 am let alone eat breakfast, haha. No effect on their growth or health whatsoever as long as people are eating enough for their bodies for their eating windows/day.
What you're saying sounds reasonable to me. I just don't know enough about it.