16 comments

sensusquaeramMarch 4, 2025

I don't know how the NHS works, but I'm calling everloving bullshit on the "inability" to sedate for outpatient procedures. Different situation, but I've had transesophageal echocardiograms, angiograms, and two atrial ablations as an outpatient -- all involved feeding catheters, cameras, and tubes down my throat and into various veins and arteries all under sedation with no overnight stay.

Something short-acting like propofol would be perfect for these procedures. It sounds like what they're really saying is they don't want to bother with having an anesthesiologist present, and women should be used to having things shoved into their vaginas anyway. Fucking barbarous.

sicktodeathMarch 4, 2025

There’s just no reason to perform this without sedation. It’s barbaric.

sensusquaeramMarch 4, 2025

It's ludicrous.

OrangeJuliaMarch 4, 2025

This turned my stomach, these poor patients! Barbaric.

RNPhalaropeMarch 5, 2025

I don't discount her pain, but I had a hysteroscopy without any anesthesia in a doctor's office. Drove myself there and home. I can't say how many women have problems with it. I wonder if the skill of the doctor performing the procedure plays a role?

I had some other biopsies done under ultrasound guidance (not gynecological), one quite painful, the other pain free. In those cases, I felt one radiologist was far more skilled than the other.

PiquedInterestMarch 5, 2025(Edited March 5, 2025)

I'd be surprised if skill level didn't play a part in it, plus variation in each woman's body in terms of how much it hurts and how much she can tolerate.

A problem is how dismissive the medical industry is of women's pain. If they were able to prove skill level definitively affected how much it hurt, would inadequately skilled doctors who caused pain but still got the procedure done actually retrain in the procedure, or would they just dismiss it as women needing to suck it up? =\

RNPhalaropeMarch 5, 2025

Good point. My guess is if you weren't as skilled you wouldn't want to admit it.

JoediMarch 4, 2025

Couldn’t read it, it was behind a paywall!

EvileineMarch 5, 2025

I couldn't either. I guess the article is about IUD insertion?

JBeauvoirMarch 6, 2025

hysteroscopy

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