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WatcherattheGatesJuly 17, 2021
Wow, beautiful!!! Where did you find these?
hypatiaJuly 18, 2021
I love this!!!! The style is everything! Do you have any more information about where it was printed, or who the artist was?
[Deleted]July 18, 2021
There’s a name and date at bottom right - I can’t read the name but the date is 1911. I would think it’s English, given the map behind her.
BiblikliAkyeretTerf7July 18, 2021
Lovely, I like the dead dragon she's standing on, I'm sure that symbolism was well-understood at the time. Did dragons represent male obstinacy, brutishness (since suffrage was tied to the fight against alcoholism and especially male violence and financial abuse caused by alcohol consumption)? I've seen lots of suffrage posters/pamphlets, but I don't remember seeing a dragon before, unless it's slipped my mind.
littleowl12July 18, 2021
Dragons represented just general bullshit since always in English culture, so this must have really pissed men off. Sweet.
BiblikliAkyeretTerf7July 18, 2021
Oh okay, thanks for telling me. That's awesome, and I bet it did piss them off. I have seen some anti-suffragist "art" (so ugly in comparison, clearly that side of the fight was lacking some serious talent) and it's clear how butthurt men were back then that women wanted to have more than the legal status of a literal child.
[Deleted]July 18, 2021
The patron saint of England, St George, is most popularly shown killing a dragon.
littleowl12July 18, 2021
I was always sad about that as a kid because I liked dragons.
[Deleted]July 18, 2021
So was I, and I thought (ignoring the whole religious context) that a man on horseback would have no chance of killing a flying, fire-breathing dragon.
Beautiful!
Let the record show that it is Lady Justice and not Lord Justice.
Truth, Justice and Liberty are all women, its why male fascists hate all three.
I read your comment yesterday, but it was such an epiphany you gave me, a real display of "next stage brain evolution"-ability to connect the dots that I had to gather my thoughts in order to respond adequately.
I find it very interesting that these ideals and concepts were cast as women despite the fact that the societies in which they emerged as such, were extremely patriarchal. I wonder why that is? I'm so curious! I feel like this is a conversation to be had out on my deck over a bottle of wine.
The statue of liberty is female, and looks similar, actually I feel like most statues I see of justice (holding scales outside of court houses) are female.
And she wields a sword!