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Activism ReportWould Nikki Haley uphold Women's rights?
The percentage of voters who are Republicans is now 28% and independents, 41% are the largest block of voters. This is why it is so important that independents get involved in the primaries or caucuses even if it would mean signing up as a Republic temporarily.
Nikki Haley seems to be backed by Wall St as was Biden in the last election. He got $74 million for his campaign from Wall St. I am very skeptical that Haley can withstand the pressure she would be under to bow to trans rights/ideology if she was president. Look at how fixated Biden was on this issue.
It's pretty interesting to me how the phrase "women's rights" has been used here seemingly exclusively in relation to trans ideology. No mention of any women's rights that might currently be under attack by Nikki Haley or her party, just... trans ideology. Is that the best we can hope for now, trans opposition? What about our other rights?
Haley is a conservative Republican and proudly counts herself among the most anti-choice governors in the United States. She doesn't believe in autonomy for women other than herself, and her opposition to trans bullshit is built on the same foundation of gross gender essentialism as its advocates.
It seems like you want U.S. citizens who read and post on Ovarit to vote Republican, which is certainly well within your rights, but trying to use "uphold[ing] women's rights" as a pretense probably isn't very useful given their candidates' voting records and public statements. Haley, for one, recently admitted during a debate that she'll support any federal limit on abortion that will pass. But, like, yeah. Go sisterhood, because no trans?
Hard to have women’s rights when there are no women
imo, laws disproportionately or exclusively oppressing women as embodied human beings can and will continue to be passed long after women are eliminated as a sort of theoretical political class. So I don't think voting for politicians who would gladly pass laws that oppress women can ever reasonably be considered "upholding women's rights," even if those same politicians have done us a solid by acknowledging that women are real. If that's what counts as women's rights, we've set the bar much too low.
…read this 10x until it really sinks in.
Women cannot have specific rights in the law, if in the law, women are men. I don’t think anyone here would be satisfied with mere verbal or ceremonial acknowledgment. I think women’s rights here means establishing women as a coherent class based on sex in the law.
Not only has it really sunk in, I see it as a foregone conclusion. My opinion is that what's being referred to as "women's rights" here is no longer attainable in the U.S., least of all by way of the executive branch. I see those battles as having happened years ago, and I think we didn't win, and now, to get away from men, we have no choice but to go into underground women's networks like our foremothers and their foremothers and theirs.
Trans ideology had already been made the law of the land in many places by the time, for example, Roe v. Wade was overturned by Trump's appointees to the Supreme Court. Even though women were already a legal fiction in so many aspects of local and federal law, women were and are still harmed when abortion bans have gone into effect, and we've still benefited when they've been lifted. Meanwhile, we lost what I see as the deciding war (accuracy on birth certificates) before the sterilisation of minor children due to genderfeels even entered the wider public consciousness. TRAs did a very fine job of not only quickly passing lots of far-reaching astroturfed misogynist legislation under most people's radar, but rooting deep. They knew how impossible shit like that would be to undo. Part of their design was: What could even the woman-friendliest president do about it now? Could she change back all the state-issued IDs by fiat, so everyone goes back to listing their actual sex and not whatever their mental illness told them to list that day? I don't think the toothpaste is going back in the tube.
So I guess I just don't see a way to establish women as a coherent class based on sex in U.S. law, in 2024. To me, the cat's [ear headphones are] out of the bag and men will fight like hell to maintain what they believe is their gender-given right to women's spaces and sexuality. Hundreds of thousands of men have already been allowed to change the sex listed on their birth certificate, passport, and all other legal documentation. Even in the midst of being genocided, Anthony Reed is still legally considered "female." But even if Republicans were going to come out as pro-establishment of women as a sex and legal class, I feel like they've telegraphed pretty clearly that their main interest in doing so is potentially being able to use that same designation as a cudgel down the line. And so women's bodily autonomy will continue to be physically limited by law, even if and when women are formally legally differentiated from men.
Sobering assessment of the situation. I suppose the best case scenario might be that in 5 years we have a president that realizes the harms of the infiltration of men into women's category and the madness ends there, and meanwhile we have thousands of men claiming to be women for 60 plus years until they die off. Odds are Haley will not be involved.
Is the battle for women's rights already lost here in the US? Maybe, but women who are speaking up deserve our support. When I see the term "underground movement," I immediately think of the most chilling SF story I ever read, A Boy and His Dog Truly a horrible story.
The abortion battle for the Republicans is now only a fight for the extremists of the party but perhaps you count Haley as an extremist. How will Republicans use women's rights as a cudgel in the future?
The bar is that low, and we need to face that reality.
Thanks for the clearing up what is essential in this coming election. I just don't have the mindset to quibble about my use of a broad term "women's rights" I have ordered but not read yet, Kara Dansky's book The Reckoning: How the Democrats and the Left Betrayed Women and Girls and yet I will very likely vote for Democrats for state and local representation.