53

I think I've hit my absolute fucking threshold for male protagonists in games. If a game won't give me the option to play a female character, I'm not fucking interested.

I have played so, so, SO many hours as a 15-40 year old white male character. I'm sick of connecting with these characters. I'm tired as hell of it. Give me a female protagonist. Give me a female character model. Female sprite art. Come on.

I'll see the gameplay trailer, I'll read the game description, I'll get super hype. The moment I see there's no female playable character, I'm fucking out. Enough is enough. I've spent two+ decades of gaming with a rolodex of white male avatars.

No more 15-40 year old white male protagonists. I'm full up for a lifetime.

I think I've hit my absolute fucking threshold for male protagonists in games. If a game won't give me the option to play a female character, I'm not fucking interested. I have played so, so, *SO* many hours as a 15-40 year old white male character. I'm sick of connecting with these characters. I'm tired as hell of it. Give me a female protagonist. Give me a female character model. Female sprite art. Come on. I'll see the gameplay trailer, I'll read the game description, I'll get super hype. The moment I see there's no female playable character, I'm fucking out. Enough is enough. I've spent two+ decades of gaming with a rolodex of white male avatars. No more 15-40 year old white male protagonists. I'm full up for a lifetime.

105 comments

My problem is that I'd rather play a male character than a female character that's been sexualised for the male gamer demographic to wank off to their newest waifu and many female protagonists don't pass that benchmark for me.

I really, really loved getting to play as Max in LiS...

I feel the exact same way but with anime and manga. Watching a show only to find out there's a fanservice/coomerbait protagonist or side character for straight males to go AWOOGA over turns me off it immediately, when I wanna talk about a show I don't wanna see some moid post a screenshot of the female character and going "uuughhh muh dick!!". I mean I've seen girls lust over anime characters but not nearly to the obnoxious extent that straight males do.

Anime/manga are exhausting for this reason. I LOVE anime, but I might hate it even more, lol. Sometimes I wish I could shut my brain off and just enjoy them, but there's nothing enjoyable about big old balloon tiddies and crotch shots of fourteen year old characters in ecchi poses. I'm bisexual, but it's not sexy, it's just gross.

Sometimes I wish I could shut my brain off and just enjoy them, but there's nothing enjoyable about big old balloon tiddies and crotch shots of fourteen year old characters in ecchi poses. I'm bisexual, but it's not sexy, it's just gross.

It's why I feel quite alienated when I read/watch anime and manga. Not all of them, of course, but I first started with shonen, so that comes up quite a bit and puts me off wanting to continue with a series.

it's not even fanservice characters who get that treatment :( I was recently reading Kaguya-sama: Love is War, and the Reddit community is just full of disgustingly suggestive and lewd art of female characters who are unsexualized and full characters in the original work. It's depressing.

Yaoi fan girls get pretty damn creepy including identifying as trans and watching men at urinals or invading gay men's clubs.

I still like good anime but the high level of crap one has to sift through to find one decent show often makes me throw in the towel.

Well I mean you're making it sounds like any girl who likes yaoi is like that, the ones that do behave like how you descrive conflate fiction/their fetishes with reality and don't realize there's a pretty clear 3 dimensional boundary. I'll look at yaoi/bl on occasion, does that mean I think I'm a cute soft uke anime boy 0w0? No, because I know its not real and the TIFs that do think they're uke anime boys have issues of their own that need addressing.

Where did you hear about fujoshi wanting to watch males at the toilet?

I just finished playing Horizon: Zero Dawn and I loved it. I loved that the character was female, not sexualized, and that her being female was neither the whole basis for the story nor completely irrelevant (the main character interacts with a few different cultures, each of which have different dynamics between the sexes. This is mentioned & holds relevance in some sidequests). However, it also makes me quite sad seeing how so many guys react to such a character. Some complained that the protag wasn't attractive enough (she's quite pretty, but even if she wasn't so what?). I've never had trouble connecting with male protags regardless of how they looked, but of course that's easy when male characters have been the only option in many cases. I can't help but think that the lack of realistic female leads in media partially contributes to many men's inability to empathize with women.

You have to check out Forbidden West. Aloy's character development is just the best thing. I love how flawed she is, yet that she can grow. It's such a good game.

I agree I find Aloy quite pretty! And I think the way Aloy was handled in terms of how female characters usually get handled was fairly good, though I watch rather than play for Zero Dawn, and have heard good things via word-of-mouth. The combat system has kept me off buying the game for now, though I might take the dive anyway!

However, it also makes me quite sad seeing how so many guys react to such a character. Some complained that the protag wasn't attractive enough (she's quite pretty, but even if she wasn't so what?).

It does. This is just such a sad complaint but I'm also not surprised. It's very entitled, almost.

I've never had trouble connecting with male protags regardless of how they looked, but of course that's easy when male characters have been the only option in many cases. I can't help but think that the lack of realistic female leads in media partially contributes to many men's inability to empathize with women.

Same, and I'd think so. But it's circular in some sense because when men who can't empathise with women write female leads because muH diVerSitY then we get unrealistic female leads...

I feel you 100%. It narrows the field so much more. I wind up playing mostly games with customizable characters for this reason, like Divinity 2 or Elder Scrolls. Anime games are practically a write-off.

Agreed. I think even in games with customisable characters, it can be rough going. I remember avoiding some of the boobplate sets in Skyrim. It's frustrating for anime games because sometimes it's fun or well-recommended but I just can't make myself put up with it.

I strongly recommend Dragon Age Series I think the female playables are pretty reasonable particularly in the last game.

I played Skyrim as a female for years and when I made a male character I had to ditch it because the grunting noises when you take damage was annoying.

I keep coming back to skyrim. It has everything I need in a game. Strong, non sexualized female player, not hyper violent, no guns, open world, fun quests, etc. I played the uncharted trilogy recently. Ick. I hated it but kept playing because I paid for it.

I'm really shocked by the amount of women who argue against women who don't want to play male protagonists. I've been that way even before I discovered radical feminism. Since childhood I have had to pretend to be a man online to not get sexually harassed or treated like a moron. To be forced to play a sex I cannot relate to in games, on top of that, makes me really upset. My existence has/is being erased and suppressed online and radfems should understand that.

I have so many games I refuse to play because, in this day and age with so many female gamers, they still won't give us a proper character creation and imply there's some "deep storyline" involved with the dude that prevented them from making a female option. Even my own male partner tells me that it's bullshit, after he plays the games and tells me there was no reason for there to not be a woman character.

I won't write off a good game just because it has a male protagonist. But I'm more inclined to give the female lead ones a chance nowadays (provided its not fanservice garbage)

That's where I was for so many years but I've just had enough. I've played so many awesome game with male characters and I'm kinda over it.

I don't play a lot, and when I do it's Mass Effect. I've done a couple of playthroughs with dudeshep for the sake of completion, but my default is female Shepard. What gets me, though, is that the character designs for female characters tend to have male patterns of gait. It's especially noticeable in the third game and it's annoying. The """""sexy""" female movements annoy me too, and I don't think anyone can claim the characters look at all realistic, but when I have a female protag like Shepard or a sidekick like Liara, it bothers the hell out of me to see them walking like bowlegged dudes.

I’ve always felt the same way, but never really thought about it before. I like character creation games because I can play as a woman who doesn’t look like she’s about to shoot a porno.

I've long stopped playing male protagonists. Basically decided when I was about 19 that it isn't OK for games to force me to be a white man. The exception was the Witcher but beyond that, I haven't touched a game that doesn't offer female playable characters. Of course, I think the software devs do it on purpose. They don't WANT women playing their games because so many of them hate us.

I seriously found a mod for the witcher 1 yesterday that lets one play as a black elf. At least the third one has a Ciri pov part, iirc.

[–] MissBehaved 2 points Edited

Yes there are some good mods now for the Witcher series. I haven't played Witcher 3 but there's apparently a mod that allows you to be a female version, she mostly looks like Geralt racially but it's a nice option at least. But damn, we shouldn't have to have fans creating mods for something like this. I mean, half the planet is female, it should be standard option for most games. I'd say I think some racial customisation should be standard too. I honestly feel like they are being lazy when they don't give us these options, it isn't 1999 anymore. I've done some modding myself, but ultimately I resent needing to make a mod for something that represents half the population.

Do you have a link for this mod? I went looking a while back and I couldn't find it. All the links were broken. I'm super interested in playing if I could track down the mod.

I think it is okay that games force you to be a white men. That is not bad on premise the same way it wouldn't be bad if the game forced you to be a black women or an asian male.

Yeah it isn't bad on premise, except it is constant! Over and over and over and over, game devs make white male protagonists. why? Give me a black woman for once, please! Or better, give us an option.

The whole concept of games forcing people to be a certain thing doesn't make sense because nobody is forced to play games in the first place. If you don't want to be that thing you just don't play that game.

[–] istara 1 points Edited

This is why I prefer WRPGs because the player characters are much more customisable and you nearly always get to pick gender.

I also like the way they tend to use mature and intelligent sounding voice artists for female player characters, such as Jennifer Hale (Mass Effect) and Courtenay Taylor (Fallout 4).

I have always felt very uneasy about JRPG characters being young, school-age characters, particularly with the sexualised aesthetic and styling used for them.

If you need recommendations, I just finished a game with a cool female protagonist called "Tales of Berseria". Its fun if you like JRPGs. And the lead character (Velvet Crowe) is very well written. Its one of the few games to make me cry at the end.

The only downside is that her default costume is super skimpy (they try to make a story reason for it. But its dumb). But, thankfully, the Tales series let's you change the characters outfits. 🙂

I generally avoid JRPGs (and anime games as a whole) due to how overly sexualised female characters tend to be, but this makes me curious as to how many anime games portrait female characters as more than just sex objects. Genuinely, I'm curious! Maybe I should check out this Tales of Berseria...

Why not make a post about it? :)

[–] starsabove 1 points Edited

I should! Might take a few tries to make a post since I'm still learning how all this works lol :) Edit: The post has been made! I'd love to hear your thoughts :)

[–] BogHag [OP] 0 points Edited

I played Tales of the Abyss a while back. I tend to avoid the anime games. I feel the female characters are always so sexualized, childish, and not very interesting. I'm glad to hear you liked Beseria. I've been kind of put off jrpgs in the past, but I'm open to trying another. I want to play Xenoblade again but that's another male protag and I'm just so fatigued =A=

If you liked Abyss, you'll probably like Berseria. Its really interesting because the leading lady in Berseria is more of an anti-hero and the story doesn't foist any love interests on her

I don't think that I've ever played a game with a male protagonist except for Zelda. I really just hate the way their bodies move and how they look in 3rd person view LOL.

I am mostly the same as you... I avoid male protagonists like the plague! XD Have been since childhood when I first started playing video games actually! :) I only enjoy playing a male if he is reaaally attractive to my eyes like bishonen from some anime games...

I avoid silent male protagonists like the plague though due to the fact that it feels almost like a slap in the face as a gal since silent protagonists are supposed to be a representation of the player rather than be a separate person with their own feelings and thoughts so it feels like the gamedevs are completely ignoring the fact that female players even exist which is an awful feeling...

Based. And yes, me too. Unless a male character is especially beautiful, I don’t play him.

Load more (1 comment)