
Could this have an influence on Sall Grover’s appeal? This is a large precedent set for excluding men on the basis that women are disadvantaged.
I suspect they'll say that TIMs are somehow disadvantaged compared to women and end it right there. Wonder if these ideologically captured courts would allow sexual violence and crime stats to be used as evidence of the need for single sex spaces.
Thats not relevant. Being 'more disadvantaged' doesnt grant you access. People with disabilities dont have the right to take over spaces for ethnic minorities.
The argument, i think, is that the law has already legally recognised tickle as a female. In reality he isnt, but the law has to agree with itself.
Good point. Being in US, and not knowing Tasmania's relationship to mainland Australia, or their judicial system, I don't know if it will influence it or even get wide coverage. Hopefully this judgement will survive being sent back to original court, which i think it says it will be. But congrats to that judge for a great, woman centered ruling.
It's being sent back to the tribunal, which is not a court.
This was a decision by the Supreme Court of Tasmania sets a precedent in that state (arguably the worst state in Australia for women's rights at the moment). It is not binding on a federal court like the High Court or on other states, but the decision could still be cited in another case.
Sal Grover said on X that men who claim to be women ARE to be admitted, as per Australian law, they ARE women.
So this is bad news for women.
yes, sadly wherever there is "self-id" and people can change their documents, etc. and then they will be considered by the state as the "gender" they say they are. And in Australia that is the case. However, the judgement is still a victory for females as it does exclude males, and recognizes male discrimination of women. This is not a case about "trans" shit. It is a good step in the right direction for Australia which has shown its distain for women in its "trans" stuff. But we need to keep plugging away and fighting for the recognition of the biological differences and female oppression.
Well I'll be. I guess Australian law is less categorical about those things than US law.
This is good news for women, though it is not specifically about men pretending to be women. And particularly good because Australia is totally captured and puts women's rights, it seems, way below men's generally. This court seems to understand that women are disadvantaged in all ways in a patriarchy. Love the women artists insisting on a women only exhibit, and winning in this court. Gutsy, inspiring women.