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it would be nice if 'lesbian' meant lesbian
How do people in here feel about women in relationships with men using the term lesbian (or gay) to describe themselves?
I just discovered that an author whose writing I really admire, and who has referred to herself as either a lesbian or gay multiple times in interviews, actually has a husband. I came across this accidentally through her wikipedia page, and the sources on there check out. I feel uncomfortable bringing names into this, so I'll keep that info hush, but I wanted to vent.
I'm pretty shocked but I guess I shouldn't be. There seem to be a ton of bisexual women keen to throw the term 'lesbian' around. It just really bothers me because it makes people (esp. straight men) interpret the label as something flexible. When I say I'm a lesbian, I MEAN I'm a lesbian- and that's what I assume when I hear other people use it!
I'll still be reading her books because they're fantastic, but I'm super confused/a bit hurt by this info. (I know it's someone else's private life, so I don't really have a right to be offended, but it just sucks to see someone I thought was kind-of like me, having a bit of mainstream success, seemingly misusing the label in what I've always felt was a pretty damaging way).
Passing is not a concept in radical feminism I don’t know why they keep bringing it up as if we invented it.
“Passing as female” is something from the transgender/transsexual world. Passing as female is a goal that some transsexuals have because they despise their own sex.
Radical feminists don’t have a list of things women need to have or do to “pass” as female and thus be considered women. We often talk about the myriad ways that men and women physically differ but only because transgenderists started claiming they could become us.
If you’re a human female adult you are a woman. It’s a simple, liberating philosophy. It’s the trans, traditional and liberal feminist communities that have all these requirements and rules and strategies on what someone has to do to become a woman or pass as a woman or be a “real” woman.
“Passing as female” is something from the transgender/transsexual world. Passing as female is a goal that some transsexuals have because they despise their own sex.
Sex dysphoria in men might be caused by male sexual violence, but I doubt even a significant percentage of TIMs hate their own sex. By and large, TIMs are obsessed with "passing" because it's part of their sex drive -- both the autogynephiles and the gay TIMs who do it to attract men. I suspect the majority of those 5-10% of TIMs who do get their penis inverted are convinced it will increase their sexual pleasure.
(I use sex dypshoria to emphasize what gender dysphoria used to be defined by: the persistent wish to be rid of one's genitals.)
They are always so fucking racist.
And what the fuck is 'gender presentation standards'?!?!?
In this fantasy world where men could ever in a million years pass as women, and somehow despite a million years of humans always being able to tell that WOC are women, we suddenly no longer can.
There is no litmus test. Everyone can always tell when a man is pretending to be a woman. The only women I personally can't tell are actually not men are TIFs who use T and have an apple body type. And I don't think these TIFs should use women's facilities for this reason, even if they are technically entitled to.
god, these people are so fucking dumb lol. how do they not recognize the inherent racism in such comments?? it truly boggles the mind.
Laws against TIMs hurt lesbians?
I really dont think so, bro.
I wish there were fucking laws against TIMs.
I think it's another desperate ploy: make lesbians so grateful for their help they'll want to sleep with them. Even have their children!
The reasoning, if you can call it that, seems to go something like: 'All racists are cis; some racists think some WOC are not beautiful; all cis people think all TW are not beautiful; so, all cis people are racists as well as transphobic.' It's like term logic on acid with a touch of ADHD.
Which leads to the question “So why are you TIMs so desperate for these evil racist transphobic cis women to fuck you?” Which of course he wouldn’t answer because it’s rape by coercion he’s after.