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On not liking The Holdovers
I didn’t want to see The Holdovers because it looked like a troubled-young-man-comes-of-age story, a genre that bores me (there have been so many). I was persuaded to go by friends, found it was a sad-middle aged-weirdo-man-finds-himself story, and liked it even less.
Now, I think Paul Giamatti is a great actor, but was underwhelmed by the performance. I had no empathy for the character (and I am a veritable fount of fictional empathy), or indeed any of the characters. The manipulative sad teen boy, the saintly suffering middle aged bereaved mother for whom Da'Vine Joy Randolph won an Oscar, the various secondary characters.
I would have been more interested in the movie if it had held on longer to some of the secondary characters. The dynamic among the group of miserable outcast boys was a bit interesting and could have been rewarding, but off they went skiing, Carrie Preston I always enjoy, and the awkwardness of this creepy sad dude thinking she’s into him because she’s sociable and nice could have been fruitful.
The whole movie seemed set up to make me not care, as off-putting as the protagonist with his self-hatred and bad breath.
FYI here is why I did not watch, nor watch anything by Payne: https://variety.com/2020/film/news/alexander-payne-rose-mcgowan-sexual-misconduct-allegations-1234759987/ https://www.thewrap.com/rose-mcgowan-alexander-payne-sexual-misconduct/
https://www.thewrap.com/rose-mcgowan-cancels-book-tour-spat-with-transgender-woman/ I believe, Rose, a Terf sister, who yelled this at a TiM who heckled her and demand she talk about TiMs instead of her life experience: `“What have you done for women?” McGowan said, raising her voice. After Dier left, McGowan launched into this:
“Don’t label me, sister. Don’t put your labels on me. Don’t you f–ing do that. Do not put your labels on me. I don’t come from your planet. Leave me alone. I do not subscribe to your rules. I do not subscribe to your language. You will not put labels on me or anybody. Step the f– back. What I do for the f–ing world and you should be f–ing grateful. Shut the f– up. Get off my back. What have you done? I know what I’ve done, God d—it.”
You can see more in the Instagram video post above.
Friday, The Daily Beast caught up with Dier, who said she felt sympathy for McGowan. “Her trauma was caused by men,” she said. “And I feel personally that maybe she has a traumatic response because she really does see us as men.”` --um, yeah, bc you are a man that harassed a SA victim. That's a man, bro.
PS it was also plagerized.
Dier, himself, is a sex pest of underage girls.
I had no idea. Thank you.