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Racism Denialism on Ovarit
This issue is honestly beginning to drive me away. In the past month, I can’t count the amount of highly upvoted “racism isn’t that bad anymore” comments I’ve seen, in addition to people implying that WOC have some level of privilege over white women just because a handful of deluded woke folk pretend to care about us. I’m sick of seeing people who hate women, like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and other conservative scumbags, receive praise just for criticizing trans ideology. I’m sick of seeing people excuse conservative racism (and sexism!!!) just because the dems have let us all down. From my perspective, Ovarit has become increasingly rightwing sympathetic and I honestly hate it. It’s alienating as fuck. A lot of people here act like the left is just lying about how racist conservatives are, but as a black woman living in a conservative area I’ve experienced it firsthand. It’s not an exaggeration. I feel that nonwhite women and WOC’s issues are tokenized here the same way TRAs tokenize us. That is all. Curious if anyone else feels this way.
If I upvote everything is it almost like I'm upvoting nothing?
Absolutely not. A single upvote can be the difference between a woman thinking "I guess no one cares what I have to say" or "hey, at least someone found value in my words!"
A rising tide lifts all ships. The more upvotes everything on Ovarit receives, the more women will enjoy posting and participating here!
I agree. I upvote anything I appreciate, even in the slightest.
Same!! After all, every little reply (which isn't completely in bad faith, wildly inaccurate or outright trolling) has value. All forms of participation, replying to other women, and sharing your opinions is adding value!!
After all, it's not the "internet points" that matter. It's knowing that your participation was appreciated by your fellow women.
I upvote any time I think someone has contributed meaningfully to the conversation. Sometimes that means upvoting things I don't personally agree with, but I think they worded it well (and I'll especially do this if they have negative votes, but I think they don't deserve them). I tend to follow the reddit legacy policy of downvoting is for comments that break site-wide rules, not things I disagree with.
When in doubt I tend to upvote. Sometimes I'll go on sprees where I upvote everything in a thread :)
Yeah, I try to downvote comments that contribute nothing: ad hominem attacks, shoddy logic, misrepresenting facts or arguments, etc. I learn at least as much from those with whom I disagree as from those with whom I agree, so why penalize them? But the people who undermine good faith discussion and argument, even if not breaking any explicit rules, diminish the exchange and get downvotes.
Instead of downvoting comments you think are breaking rules, you should report them. That's the best way to make sure the mods can do their jobs.
And, as always, thanks mods -- you're the BEST.
You won't get upvoted for sucking up to them.
I like to thank people when I know that something I say might generate more work for them.
I have noticed that I upvote here way more than I have ever upvoted on reddit. I also pretty much upvote everything because most of the content and discussion here is engaging, insightful, and highly relatable.
Yes I agree with this so much. This is the most intelligent, thoughtful space on the interwebs. I sometimes go over to Twitter but it's like crack cocaine and although there are some gems it's also highly toxic.
I come back here and it's like homemade chicken soup after the crack of Twitter.
How come GCs and rad fems are all so intelligent and articulate?
There are 2 things that draw us here - being women, and being critical thinkers. No matter what age, country, sexual orientation, etc - it's enough for us to be able to have discussions we don't usually get to have anywhere.
I only upvote people. I feel like a lot of people have dealt with enough bullying on Reddit and don't need to come here and be downvoted into disappearing because of their personal beliefs, however wrong or stupid I think they are.
If there's someone who is repeatedly unkind, annoying, or antagonistic, I just block them and I don't have to see their behavior anymore.
If I like something I'll upvote it, even if it's like the 10th comment in a row that I've upvoted. Plus it shows that there's activity in the site besides the poster and commenters
I don't think there's any wrong way to do it. In busy threads, I'll often upvote a comment just so I'll know i already read it when I visit the discussion again later. LOL
I love upvoting on here. I think it may be because the mass majority of individuals on here are the type of people I would be friends with.
I say upvote as the spirit moves you! I don't really think too hard about upvoting; I just obey the impulse when it comes. I generally try not to downvote and if I do, I think a little more carefully than I do about upvoting.
On my tablet/computer, I upvote almost everything: if I like it, or if I don’t like/agree with it but it’s a thoughtful and reasonable contribution to the discussion.
On my phone I am stingy with likes because I accidentally fat-finger downvote too often :(
My approach could best be described as inconsistent, lol. But I do upvote a lot.
Upvote = thank you
Downvote = fuck that
No vote = meh
Can you see how much other people vote? I vote 300% more than i get upvoted haha
I still have that from FDS on reddit which constantly has screeching males down vote everything so i have trained myself to upvote smart women as a reflex, don't even think.
I think in two years i have maybe given 20 downvotes.
Can you see how much other people vote? I vote 300% more than i get upvoted haha
Yes, I can see yours. I think most of us are in the same situation (also because most people tend to read more than how much they write). I think is a good thing, it means that in general women on Ovarit value other women's contribution
Yeah absolutely! There's so many smart women here, i love it! Makes upvoting very easy
I upvote most everything because it’s almost all universally good on here 😻 The only time I don’t is when I’m lazily, sleep reading in bed (then you’ll only be lucky to get a topic upvote). If it’s an extra good comment I’ll reply with verbal compliments and kudos!
Two things I upvote for 100% of the time 1. Anyone who makes me laugh, even if it’s a guilty laugh it feels fair to give them the upvote. 2. Anyone who engages with my post or comment, even if I disagree with their response. I feel like that’s just internet manners. If someone takes the time to respond to you respectfully, even if you don’t like what they have to say, they deserve the upvote.
Otherwise I upvote pretty much anything that I think is helpful to the discussion or an interesting point that I hope more people get to see, or something clearly high effort that took some time to get together, that’s always nice.
I never upvoted on reddit at all but I think i like the upvote button here because it is purple which makes it nicer to look at haha.
I like to upvote things that really hit home for me or made me laugh. I also generally upvote every answer to a question I ask in a post, because I'm thankful people took the time to respond. I have downvoted very sparingly people who have been disrespectful but I've only had to like a few times.
I upvote anything that makes a great point, even if it's just one short sentence. Anything funny or original too. This community is so great and deserves our support. The one type of thing I tend not to upvote is posts in TransLogic - I don't think screenshots of gross misogyny need that much attention, not unless the poster here has added some kind of commentary.
I could make more of an effort to upvote stuff. I'm right handed and the vote buttons are like miles away from where my thumb is. I know that's a ridiculous and weak excuse but I do have to switch to my left hand to vote on anything and it stops me sometimes, as silly as that is.
I think you should do you. Upvote what you want, even if that is everything. There is no right or wrong.
I upvote posts when I think they are valuable, and it is a topic that interests me. I upvote comments when either I agree with them, or the discourse is interesting.
I rarely if ever downvote because I think that plays into a group think ideology, where comments which don't fit into a particular culture, in this case Ovarit's culture, are negated. To me that makes conversation difficult. (I feel similarly to the laughing emoji on facebook or the downvote on reddit). I like to hear other sides, and differing views, if only to discuss them to either strengthen my position, or to learn something new, perhaps change my mind somewhat or even completely. I guess if a comment was just plain nasty I might downvote it, but more likely I would attempt to engage the person and ask them about their response, what they are thinking/feeling and why they were thinking/feeling that way.
You should definitely upvote almost everything! I upvote the comments I like in particular, or the comments that are in direct response to mine. I'd upvote everything, but I have to smash the silly little upvote button a thousand times for the action to be successful, so I don't 🤪
Image of you smashing your finger into your phone screen repeatedly every time you read Ovarit. V amusing, thank you!
Ok great, I will keep on upvoting everything, particularly in case there is anything I am upvoting that you only did 999 smashes on and so it didn't register your vote.
Now that is solidarity <3 Every single time I go "TAKE -- MY - GODDAMN - YOU - AAAAHHHHHH TAKE MY POSITIVITY YOU FUCKER - YOU -!!" smash smash smash
I'm similar to you. In general the only things I don't upvote are low-effort comments like "This!" or "Preach!". The only things I downvote are (apparent) troll posts and non-news topics that have been discussed to death and that I'm sick of seeing over and over again.
Are there trolls here?
Yes. The invite system is a good filter but it can't keep out all the bad-faith accounts. This is just the reality of any online forum in 2022; there's no way to completely stop it so the next best thing is for everyone to be aware of it.
I always wondered how trolls were kept out because I still have yet to see anything lol. I’m guessing they’re promptly removed when it happens?
I upvote everything sort of reflexively. I made a habit of upvoting most stuff on the old r/gc just to help counteract the tra lurkers and I guess I never stopped. I just looked at my vote total and it's over 83000(!) so perhaps I have a problem.
But I do agree there should be a way to distinguish the extra-awesome comments/posts. I'd be willing to toss a few bucks every now and then toward some kind of Ovarit gold if that were an option.
Yeah i hate them on reddit but on ovarit i know definitely some people I'd give awards to. Circe and Frenchie come to mind 😋
Agree, i would like to give out 'awards' to the best of the best. Maybe we could all have a ration of like 10 awards a week to give out to the very best posts/comments.
Anyway, excellent, I shall carry on voting everything in sight up.
I want to upvote much more than I often remember to. Think it's important when so many of us are feeling so isolated where we are, pouring our dangerously heretical thoughts into an anonymous forum, to know we're being heard and we're not alone in thinking these things and feeling this way; that tiny affirmation to offset all of the gaslighting around this in our daily lives is helpful.
I lurk, I read a comment, I like it/agree/think it's important, I upvote. Simple as. If you upvote a lot it just means you see a lot of quality content, I wouldn't think too much about it
I upvote almost all posts and comments. It's a way for me to keep tabs on what I've read. I don't upvote if I disagree with what was said or don't care for the person who posted it.
For me,
I upvote posts I've read and thought worth the time to read and would encourage others to read.
I upvote comments I agree with, and reply-with-praise those comments I think especially good.
I'm a social media addict (recovering now; ovarit is the only place I go) and I try to keep my engagement to a minimum, so i don't upvote much. Mostly it's posts I would want to see on the front page.
I'm glad you are recovering. Social media is very very addictive. I am a bit addicted right now and it's affecting my real life. Can I ask how you went about recovery?
Thanks! I think I've tried everything, from cold turkey to gradually tapering off, from using sobriety apps and screen time trackers to going analog with most aspects of my life. It's kind of a jumbled mess, but I think the most effective thing for me has been an app blocker. I deleted and blocked Twitter and Facebook sometime last fall and I rarely even think about them anymore. I still have an Instagram account, but I haven't checked in since February (and i won't ever use the app).
I wish you success. The services are designed to be habit-forming, so you truly are not alone.
Supporting our sisters, even for one second's click, is never wrong. Especially when we are so limited in what we can say in other online forums, it is good to encourage.
I leave a reply if it is especially brilliant/touching.
Oh I want to reply all the time, but if I gave in to every urge then most of my comments/replies would just be cheer-leading and I note the site rules specify you should add to the discussion and not just make noise for the sake of it so I try to be constructive and not just "yeah! You're awesome! What an amazing comment! I completely agree! Yes! Brilliant!!!" even though this is what is happening in my head.
I am definitely guilty of this sometimes, especially when I want to be able to find that awesome comment I'm responding to again later.
Yeah, I wish we could save comments on here like we can for posts!
Me too! I sometimes leave small comments that are probably against the rules, but I cannot help, too, that I agree so much with so many. I like to randomly remind some of our regular posters of how wonderful they are, in moments of warm admiration, but this is my nature in real life as well.
I think it is great that you feel this way, and brought it up. I know how female socialization can be a beast to wrangle, and we all question ourselves, too.
Oh heck, I think we all do. There are so many witty women here, so many funny remarks, it would be pretty depressing if nobody responded to them because “LOL is against the rules” or something.