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JadeiteApril 2, 2021
The end of that article is ridiculous:
“thankfully, women manipulating their bodies in uncomfortable garments for the latest trends has become less prevalent.”
Yes we totally live in some sort of utopia now where women aren’t harmed by beauty trends.
No — Now instead of corsets, women are slicing up their bodies with plastic surgery and filling themselves with silicone!
meowmeowredmugApril 2, 2021
They're acting as if Kim Kardashian didn't make headlines for an entire line of shape wear garments recently.
DionaeaApril 2, 2021
No — Now instead of corsets, women are slicing up their bodies with plastic surgery and filling themselves with silicone!
And don't forget about shapewear!
Well, actually, you weren't meant to force yourself into a corset. Women wore them as supportive undergarments, like an early bra with built-in back and core support. To achieve fashionable silhouettes, it was more common to pad out the areas you didn't fill out rather than tightening everything else. When you widen your shoulders and hips, your waist always looks smaller by comparison, even if you didn't lace down your waist at all. Today, it's far more prevalent for women to squeeze into tight outfits that actually constrict them.
DionaeaApril 2, 2021
That's what the historical fashion youtubers always say but this tells a different story and this is the side they never talk about.
PlainSimpleTailorApril 2, 2021
Obviously there's always light and dark. And of course some things have been romanticized by people who are fascinated by historical dress and desperately want it to be nothing but awesome. I'm not saying fashion has been incredibly feminist and "empowering" in the olden days, misogyny obviously permeated fashion even back then. However there's this misconception that women were forced into these restrictive contraptions all the time, which I feel is an exaggeration. Also I don't like how it's contrasted with today's fashion which supposedly mirrors the "liberation" of women, when today's clothes are often just as influenced by misogyny, just in different ways.
DionaeaApril 2, 2021
However there's this misconception that women were forced into these restrictive contraptions all the time, which I feel is an exaggeration.
The Wikipedia article I linked to has lots of accounts of women and especially girls forced into them, even during sleep. Sure, it wasn't all women but very likely more than enough.
Of course today's fashion and expectations for how women should look are misogynistic but at least we have way more choices for comfortable clothes now, including undergarments. I'd reckon that there's more tolerance in regards to deviation from the fashionable look today than back then.
[Deleted]April 1, 2021
Bustles weren’t held out just with padding, they were supported on collapsible frames.
My favourite of those styles (if I had to wear them) is the WWI dress, once the hobble skirt had gone.
A more fluid, soft and feminine female shape came back into vogue in this decade
This made me laugh. Isn't the whole point to show how what is perceived as 'feminine' has changed over time?
Edit: formatting
[Deleted]April 1, 2021
In this about England?
[Deleted]April 1, 2021
It certainly applies to it.
[Deleted]April 2, 2021
It certainly doesn't apply to most of the world, that's why I think a clarification is needed.
[Deleted]April 2, 2021
It’s definitely about Western European fashion - so, styles seen there and in the North American continent and the British Empire. Depends on the social groups and classes involved.
This is not very accurate and tries to paint historical garments as universally uncomfortable torture devices, whereas the opposite is true: garments used to be way more functional, almost everything was fitted to a person's body specifically (and altered over time to continue to fit), and you weren't supposed to constrict yourself, unless maybe you were trying to be extra high-fashion (which only applied to a small percentage of people, for a small percentage of time). I think modern clothing does women more of a disservice.
I have a passionate dislike of denim jeans. I wear them, but honestly they are so uncomfortable.The roughness of the demin, the lack lack of stretch when one bloats (period/heavy meal etc.) I hate you jeans!!!
I rarely wear them for this reason. I prefer dresses , skirts or stretchy trousers, leggings ..
I swear most of modern women's fashion doesn't have women's comfort in mind in the slightest. Women are supposed to pick jeans which make their butt look great or whatever. Pockets, comfortable waistbands, soft material? Nah no one needs those.