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General interestMy rich and out-of-touch tech bro friends
I have been friends for almost 30 years with this group of guys from high school. We're all in our early 40s now. A great many of them have worked for a very, very famous tech company in the past (which I cannot name).
One dude, (who - incidentally- was born with a silver spoon in his mouth), is doing extremely well financially. His custom-built home resembles a high end office building. It's absolutely huge. He lives there with his beautiful young wife, domestic staff, and their dog.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's an intelligent and hard working man. However, he does not seem to understand that most of us don't live the way that he does.
He was recently complaining that he didn't understand why more of his staff had not personally purchased the Apple Vision Pro, which he believes would increase productivity among his staff. I checked the price on it. It's at least $3499.
I gently suggested to him that this device is not something that everyone can afford.
He then retorted that most of his employees should be able to afford the Apple Vision Pro because his staff members pay $350/month for a train ticket to commute into (a major American city).
Perhaps he is right and his employees could shell out their personal money for the Apple Vision pro. But why should they have to? What if the train ticket is the biggest strain on their budget(s)?
How the fuck can you post that and not see the blatant fucking misogyny and erasure of women? Notice nobody is turning famous dudes into women, only the opposite
GEE WHIZ I can't imagine why
All the men of the past who were secretly transwomen (asterisk for the above) were unassuming nobodies. Doesn’t it make sense!
Well there are TRAs who are trying to turn the Ancient Roman Emperor Elagabalus : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus And the French spy Chevalier d'Éon into TIMs : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_d'Éon
Ok, I have to admit I thought the Chevalier WAS a TIM. Not that he called himself that, but in that he did suddenly pretend that he was a woman in middle age, and had been all along, until they found out he was male after he died. He also acted kind of TIM, by sleeping with tons of women while pretending to be one, but doing violence to anyone who objected, via duels. I think there have always been various kinds of weirdos, but, like cannibals or necrophiliacs, they were extremely few and far between and not embraced as stunning and brave.
What a stupid interpretation. Viking age women weren't upper middle-class, suburban 50s housewives. They lived in a violent culture and did manual labor. Why wouldn't they be buried with tools and weapons? If American frontier women had been buried with items they used in life, a sizeable number of them would also be buried with agricultural tools and firearms. Even today, it's not uncommon for women (in the US at least) to own guns.
They have no idea about how the world was and currently IS. It'd be funny if they weren't trying to change reality based on their stupidity.
How did he know they were "afab"? 🤔 Unless he's admitting "afab" just means "female"?
It’s almost as if we have some sort of way to tell…maybe something to do with the bones perhaps…not sure because I’m a weak and feeble minded woman, but this man hypothesizing on the internet surely knows what he’s talking about!
I hate it when these people trans the dead in general, but it really is my personal pet peeve when they talk shit about the Norse warrior graves because those meant so much to me as a kid, and kind of still do. To give just one example, it took forever to get it officially recognised that the Birka warrior burial (Bj581) was a woman because male archaeologists saw weapons and a chess set and just went "ah okay, that's a man". Her bones had to get tested twice (pelvic bone analysis I think, and then DNA analysis) and there were (and probably are) still men who came up with the most absurd possible explanations for why it either can't be a woman's burial, or isn't a warrior burial anymore, because they impose their modern gender roles instead of even trying to understand the (strict but multifaceted, and very different) gender roles of that time.
And now this other group shows up and tells these sexist, narrowminded men "well yes it's a female skeleton, but weapons = man, you're so right :)". I hate it. It's anti-feminist and anti-science.
I've noticed that men hate seeing evidence of physically strong women
There was a while when I carried my stuff in a big military duffel on my back, and so many men had to (attempt to) lecture me about how it wasn't real military issue ( it was).
It's like thier little brains explode if women are anything but weak and helpless because they know deep down that they are useless and we don't need them for manual labor (as they often claim).
If only those weapon-wielding Viking women rose from the dead to confront this creep ...
Another Scandinavian here, and fuck off with that. we STILL carry tools around, our grandmothers and mothers did as well. I intend on being buried with my garden rake and snow shovel.
I put on pants, I instantly become a man.
Not even that, you just have to show any kind of ability to take care of yourself to instantly become a man.
Yeah, I feel like living as a homeless woman has given me a front row seat to men's misogyny.
So many of them act like I'm a child who can't take care of myself. And yet I have survived better than most homeless without the help or "protection" of men, both homeless men and the "normal" ones who use trying to give me food as an excuse to mainsplain how to survive homelessness.
Fuck men.
Apparently Viking warrior women don’t exist, they must be men! Silly anthropologists!
How can you say that and not realize how horribly ignorant and misogynistic that sounds ! Mr. Transbian? 🤨
That whole viking skeleton saga is a masterclass of misogyny. For decades it was "the skeleton has male gear therefore must be male" despite a number of female archeologists pointing out that the skeleton was female. After a DNA test was finally done that proved the skeleton was female then they started in on the whole "non-binary" and "trans" nonsense.
I hate that they trans viking women 😒 it was a very different society, quite violent too. Freya is even a war goddess, although she's most famous for being a fertility goddess.
Anyway, the Vikings most likely would not have accepted a man thinking he was a woman or a woman thinking she was a man. I've seen TRAs using Loki's turning into a mare as an argument the vikings were fine with trans, but if they actually read the Edda, they'd see that everyone's disgusted by it, mocking him. They are not accepting of that. The story of Thor dressing up as a Freja to get Mjølner back is also a mocking story. Both supposed to be funny, because Thor is dressed as a woman (and he is not happy about it) and mocking the Jotun, because they actually fall for it.
That's not to say the gender roles were exactly like today, or that there weren't occasions when they were broken, but the vikings would not have accepted that a woman wielding a sword was suddenly a man. I'm pretty sure.
Thor being the dudebro in a dress and veil and the ice giants are just too dumb to notice.
And despite Odin using seidr it was a womans thing. Norse faith isnt documented like the christian one, there was a lot of oral stories going in all regions and changing with time, the change from vanir to aesir being the rulers; freya the war goddess becoming (or also being) a fertility goddess (and then the whole question "who tf is freyr and why is he doing her job") or the debate freya/frigg(-a).....
I could go on for hours.
Exactly! And if I remember correctly, Loki mocks Odin for doing Sejd. Although he is generally uhm... respected for his knowledge and sejd. Loki sort of brings up that even despite the respect, people are still aware that he's doing a woman's role. So, it was possible to break the roles some, but only so much...
Ahh good old Loki, from handsome Marvel baddie to the gEnDeRfLuid superposterboy for tha transgenda. HE'S A SHAPESHIFTER FFS. Is he somewhere mentioned as mom of his creature-children? I dont think so. Despite him giving birth to Sleipnir.
To be fair, most of the time when I see people use Loki as a "the vikings accepted trans", they clearly have their knowledge from Marvel and that one story of him turning into a horse. And they still imagine Marvel Loki turning into a horse....
Yeah, he gives birth to Sleipnir, but Sleipnir is a weird horse with 8 legs... It's not a normal result, because it's magic! Maybe Loki being part Jotun also has something to do with it 🤔 Vikings sure loved giving Jotuns several heads (especially the females... Don't know what was up with that...)
Their rigid gender boxes make women appear so weak and hapless. Fuck these people.
I was just reading a thing about this today. How make archeologists kept saying stuff they couldn't think of a use for were for esoteric rituals, but as soon as women were allowed to study them, they saw right away that they were spindles for wool, or menstrual calendars, etc. I always thought this about Archimedes. Ask any ancient mom who ever bathed a kid in a basin why they didn't fill the tub right to the brim, and they would have told you that adding a baby would make the water overflow. But a MAN writes it down and he's a hero-genius for the ages. Screw you, Archimedes (sorry!)
you can tell him to fuck off he's deadybones now
also i love stuff like this
And I love 'deadybones'!
i'm late replying but deadybones is something i learnt from my grandparents and makes me laugh every time i say it. usually about a plant you've neglected or a cake that's spent too long in the oven -- "oh that's deadybones now"
Wow. As a Norwegian (viking-descendant) woman with a lot of tools, I find this highly offensive. Owning tools is not what makes someone male. Such ridiculousness.
Like, what are they imagining makes a viking woman? A dainty little wallflower with twirling skirts? That's not how you survive in the cold winter.
Exactly. Sex is determined by the spin rate of skirt. (SRS)
You forgot long flowing wavy golden blond hair that smells like roses and feels like cashmere! It's gotta be long because that means she's a woman. Duhhhh 🤪🤪🤪