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Handmaid strikes again
Watching an old season of Project Runway. In the first episode, they are figuring out who will sleep where in the apartment. There is a woman who says, "I'm Muslim, so I'd prefer no men in this room," because, naturally, a man is trying to take one of the beds.
Before he can say anything, a different woman jumps in and asks him if he's straight. He's all, "Me? Straight? Hell no!" to which this woman goes, "See? So there's no problem."
She just overrode the Muslim woman's wishes and gave consent to this man to violate this woman's privacy.
WTF????
Then, naturally, 5 minutes later one of the models admits he's a TIM (as if we couldn't tell) and the designer working with him goes bonkers fawning over him and calling him a "Goddess" over and over. Puke!
I have also done it backwards in unsafe spaces, “wow, that sounds like something someone on Ovarit would post”, type comments which could be interpreted as my being outraged by what they just said. But will make the curious google.
Sometimes people look at account history, do you try to make it look like a libfem and transrights activist or just only on certain comments?
I think it could work to generate curiosity but also afraid it may make some speak on certain views less as some are looking for support.
I got banned from fourthwavewomen - never even given a reason and I was always civil. So fuck them, frankly.
I was one of the original mods on that sub. I left after a couple of months because the other moderators were very heavy handed with regard to comment deletion and banning when it came to anything about gender. They are terrified of the sub being shut down but the truth is you can't be a radical feminist space without being able to discuss how gender is the tool of oppression against women. I don't consider the mods there to be radical feminists.
If the sub is to be a place to discuss OTHER radfem issues and to help women find other sites like this one, it has to stay gender free. I support what they’re doing. You can’t have a free for all or else you get banned and then no one knows where to meet for the next one.
No. Gender is an essential part of the conversation and analysis. You cannot call yourself a radical feminist sub without including discussions about gender. It's not possible.
I actually support their current position since I discovered radical feminism through that sub, which eventually led me here. If they had explicit gender discussions they would be banned, and I and many other women wouldn't have the views we have today. So I think the unfortunate censoring is worth it in this instance.
I used to post there often before coming here, I'm surprised I never got banned honestly. There's hardly anyone active there now.
I did get momentarily banned from there a couple of years ago because they thought I was male. A quick selfie with my username written on paper cleared it up. As annoying as it was, I do appreciate them for being proactive in their attempts to keep the community female-only (and hence less likely to have conversations derailed by men).
As for gender, they used to be a lot stricter about locking threads where that was talked about, but I haven’t noticed them doing it as much lately.
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They never said, but it happened after I got confused and made a weird comment on the sub. I assume someone looked at my comments and saw that I had recently posted something in a predominantly male subreddit.
With this strategy members that aren't moderators could be targeted so we could also get people who want to avoid unfair moderation.
Same!! Except without the last part. Moderating female centric subs is almost impossible and inevitably some good women get caught in filters. Happened to me on FDS
I used to, but you are right especially not to post it publicly. Now that David Elizabeth changed my rule about no trans debate in PornIsMisogyny i bet the comments about Ovarit will get deleted.
Was gonna say this. Don’t invite anyone from there. It’s captured. Still enjoy most of the content but I bet there are some unhinged TRAs there
Were you a moderator in this subreddit?
Yes, i used to mod that one and a few others before my account was suspended.
I got banned from r/fourthwavewomen for PMing posters asking if they want an Ovarit code. At least that's how I view it.
I tried to ask the subreddit mods for an appeal and I said I won't do it anymore, but the mods replied that they didn't care about the Ovarit codes, and the "real" reason I got banned was because someone was PMing members to get them into a chat room as a way to dox feminist women or something? I told them that I never did that and they did not reply back. :/
Even though they banned me, it doesn't really change anything. I could still PM members asking them if they wanted to join. It just means I can't post on the subreddit.
So I'd say be careful doing this if you are concerned about getting banned from the subreddit you're PMing people from.
But yes, I think it's a good strategy to do.
If you keep doing this and run out of Ovarit codes, let me know, because I still have like 70ish I'd be happy to give to feminist women.
I have seen a lot of discussion about GC topics in StupidPol, but I guess most of them are men
StupidPol is a misogynistic tankie shithole.
They were always latently misogynistic but the last 6 months it has devolved from "occasionally has an interesting discussion" to antisemitic, woman hating, bitter shithole crawling with divorced losers eaten up by fanatic woman hatred who watch Andrew Tate etc.
It's absolutely amazing how any heterodox sub about culture war/political issues always ends up in nothing but men bitching about and to women. Any woman who dares defend women, even mildly, gets downvoted and piled on. It's really opened my eyes to how many "critical thinking" males just fucking hate women.
Sometimes they do it cleverly, "Oh, why is it women who are more subject to social contagion?" blah blah blah, knowing full well they aren't good faith and they just want to open the discussion of shitting on "neurotic" women. They don't actually care about getting to the root of human behavior and they never, ever look in the mirror. TBH I've realized a lot of these people just plain aren't that smart. They don't recognize their own dangerous social contagions (like fucking WAR!).
I could write essay after essay on the hatred of women, subtle and unsubtle, that I see.
A lot of it boils down to these men are angry that women aren't fucking them and they think sex is a human right they are owed. I've seen multiple people on that sub seriously argue that the government should provide wives, and they get upvoted. Men just really hate the fact that in the end they actually worship us, or at least our bodies.
It's incredible how fast it went downhill. After GC got banned it had tons of women refugees and the discussions were stellar (for reddit anyway). I guess the few men who possess a brain left when they turned off third party apps. I did too although I hadn't been posting on reddit for years. Now I lurk on redreader because, yeah, I can't let go of the procrastinating yet and it's a super good app, no ads, none of that cringy Facebook bullshit like awards and these embarrassing avatars.
Now stupidpol is literally the worst the "left" has to offer minus gender ideology. Now this is just my opinion but many women here hate on conservatives when the "left" does literally all the harm and then some. And stupidpol is the perfect example, their woman hatred is not one percent less than the woman hatred of the forced birthers.
Seriously check it out. They are gleefully laughing about
But one group they acknowledge is oppressed. White men!!!! They're basically GENOCIDED on the streets, women rule over them like cruel queens and literally nobody has ever experienced oppression like the modern white male. Why exactly or how? Uhhhhh because they can't get their microdicks wet. Yeah that's it.
This is now the level of discourse they have.
Yup, solid rant, I hate read that sub sometimes now, even though I used to use it sincerely, and while it was never perfect, which is fine and normal on any sub with a lot of different discussion/opinions, it completely stopped being good faith and just became a bitch fest.
I don't know if anyone here reads the Blocked and Reported sub but the same thing is happening there. It's slowly being taken over by MRA types and conspiracy theorists who sincerely believe women do things like sexually assault people to the same level as men.
I do although I would never watch the podcast. I can see it. It's still much more reasonable and civil than stupidpol but I see what you see. More and more you see these bitter incel losers go "gender ideology is women's fault!" and there's also some trutrans there who scream BE CIVIL. But only to men. Be civil never applies to women for some weird reason.
I got kicked out of StupidPol for talking about intersectionality and I was told that they don't talk about intersectionality there. I think I'm on either my 3rd or 4th handle. They are hopeless. Sometimes in the conspiracy sub they will talk about GenderWoowoo as part of brainwashing from billionaires, and they'll see that it's social control, but usually don't realize it's transhumanism and robots they are pushing.
It's good that there's men that oppose transgenderism but sometimes it's for conservative reasons only, but maybe they could still read stuff here even if they won't qualify to join.
A lot of these men love to bring up that women support trans people in greater numbers so it's our "comeuppance" for being "stupid" and feminist, without ever realizing the fact we've been socialized to hashtag "be kind" has benefited them greatly too. Yeah fuckers, we've been socialized to let you penis-havers step all over us and the second we speak up and talk about our mistreatment we get shitted on as "neurotic", "whiny", "Karens", etc..
Wouldn't be surprised if the word 'Ovarit' alone is enough to get messages auto-censored on Reddit.