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The Rachel Divide
Posted April 3, 2022 by penelopekitty in Television

It's a few years old but is on Netflix again. I watched it for the second time last night with my mother. She hadn't been aware of the case first time around and was blown away that this happened.

Dolezal is more complex and intelligent than people give her credit for and her story is strange in many ways. If you haven't watched this documentary I highly recommend it.

That being said I still can't understand how the same people who vilified Dolezal praise trans women. I can't understand how they tell themselves these two things are different.

My personal opinion is that racism is considered real oppression while sexism is not. I think there are a lot of people out there who just don't see women as being oppressed. To me this is an extension of their contempt and hatred of women of any race.

After watching this documentary again I found myself incredibly angry all over again. I do not agree with what Dolezal did but she has been destroyed for doing the very same thing Bruce Jenner has been celebrated for. This is just more evidence of how much women are hated. Men like Shaun King are only lightly mocked for doing the same thing.

53 comments

clairenovakNovember 2, 2022

I screenshot some reddit comments a few weeks ago where some TIMs were complaining about how their menopausal moms could get HRT to "help make them feel better" but they couldn't get it. It made me hate them even more. No sympathy for even their own mothers.

SelkieNovember 2, 2022

I recall when PhilosophyTube came out (and by came out I mean 'made his AGP public') and complained about how Old Cis Women (the WORST demographic, don'tyaknow) can just GET HRT while poor men like him have to ask for a prescription for these unnecessary wrong-sex hormones that will be actively damaging his health.

I was never un-peaked but this really did add yet another peak to the mountain range.

IshahchaiNovember 2, 2022

complained about how Old Cis Women (the WORST demographic, don'tyaknow) can just GET HRT

And that’s not even true! Too many doctors won’t prescribe HRT for natural menopause because conventional wisdom vacillates on the benefits v. risks. Gee, if only women’s health care research was fully funded and functional.

It reminds me of how eggs were both good and bad for your health at one point.

yesisaiditxxNovember 3, 2022

Yeah my cousin went into menopause in just her late 30s and tried to get estrogen and was told that the risks weren’t worth it when she’d need to stop taking it at some point anyhow and basically just said to suffer through it naturally.

HopscotchNovember 3, 2022(Edited November 3, 2022)

This is the innate misogyny of our medical system. Men with low testosterone can walk into "men's health" clinics and get hrt after basic lab work. Some clinics don't even do the blood work.

Women are expected to just... suffer.

SelkieNovember 2, 2022

It being untrue was one of the most aggravating things about it, exactly!! They don't just hand out HRT to women going through menopause, from what I gather there are all kinds of hoops to jump through

It was PhilosophyTube so it was most likely his classic case of 'I know this isn't true, but all those brocialists who love me so much won't have a clue, because I'm so much smarter than them'. Absolute bad-faith grifter.

On the plus side, his face, body and outfits these days are absolutely hilarious to look at and have given me many a laugh aloud, so I guess we get something out of him making a public fool of himself for his fetish.

[Deleted]November 2, 2022

This!! I decided to go off mine since I am hitting the age where the risk of stroke etc massively goes up with HRT and my doctor was really happy. He is older and leans towards the "but breast cancer risk!" position plus stroke etc. I know some clinicians have a different view but to deal with them I would need specialist referral and it would cost a packet. I figure I can take care of my dementia and bone health risks with other methods.

It's so hard to know what's best.

danielalNovember 3, 2022

Providers I've seen are even reluctant to prescribe vaginal estrogen because of the slight possibility of systemic absorption leading to cancer, heart disease, etc. But if you don't even have a vagina? Take all you want!

pennygadgetNovember 2, 2022

I recall when PhilosophyTube came out (and by came out I mean 'made his AGP public') and complained about how Old Cis Women (the WORST demographic, don'tyaknow) can just GET HRT while poor men like him have to ask for a prescription for these unnecessary wrong-sex hormones that will be actively damaging his health.

Its cute how they think we can just march into a doctors office and demand free shit without proper evaluation the way they can

puppy_catNovember 2, 2022

Oh yeah, I recall he also tried to use the argument of women getting mastectomies for CANCER as a "poor uwu twans not being able to get mastectomies for gender feels" comparison. He is insane.

SpiritsGrimoireNovember 3, 2022

PT is like ContraPoints, the worst kind of TIM that is fetishy and gross.

I can't stand either of them..hate them so much.

magdalaNovember 3, 2022

Ugh. I remember that. I was still a good little lefty handmaid then, but that really primed me for my later peaking because I was just viscerally disgusted by Philosophy Tube’s transition. Like a basic-level revulsion and sense of cognitive dissonance.

“Hey Oliver! Your elective cosmetic surgeries and wrong sex hormones to give you lady-feelings are not a bigger priority than giving women with breast cancer mastectomies/reconstructive surgery or giving menopausal women hormone therapy to alleviate their actual pain and discomfort! This is why people think you’re a colonizing wanker!”

Like, this dude actively said he doesn’t even feel gender dysphoria. My man is not going to kill himself because he can’t stand the sight of his masculine face in the mirror (even if he did, get in line and go private like every other person with body dysmorphia who wants a nose job or BBL). He’s openly doing it for the coom and thinks that the NHS should pay for it and prioritize him over people with real medical conditions. I hate that guy.

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pennygadgetNovember 2, 2022

Ugh. Reminds me of that TIF who complained that her mother with breast cancer was getting a mastectomy before her. Trans ideology turns people into goddam sociopaths

sicktodeathNovember 2, 2022

Especially for their own mothers!

[Deleted]November 2, 2022

I think they’re less sympathetic to their mothers than they are anyone else, tbh.

danaseilhanNovember 2, 2022

Never mind it's actually their fathers' faults they aren't the sex they want to be, either.

NoNameNovember 2, 2022

"help make them feel better" versus indulging males in their fetishes.

sarstanNovember 2, 2022

Par for the course, women's needs ignored in favour of porn-addled men who want tits to fondle while they masturbate in the women's toilets. It's so fucking offensive I don't have words.

wearexxNovember 2, 2022

Your condition is actually life threatening while theirs is not. This is just one of a million reasons why women need to be protected as a sex based class. Our medical needs were already disregarded, this is just makes it worst.

[Deleted]November 2, 2022

It's going to get worse. I wouldn't be surprised if they start a rationing system based off "severity" of the condition treated. Women will be told that feeling a little too hot sometimes is nowhere as near as bad as being in the wrong body. Menopausal women who literally want to jump out of their skin suits into a cold lake are in their perfectly correct body, of course.

AlagraNovember 2, 2022

Post Hysto as well, before 30. Same issue and it sucks... Fuck these fetishists

FeministunderyrbedNovember 2, 2022

More to the point, Gen X men who want to play with their boobs are statistically better able to pay for HRT because women are still at a financial disadvantage, particularly in our generation where men are much more likely to have made fortunes in tech, which also correlates highly with wanting boobies teehee.

DisheveledOpossumNovember 2, 2022

Ok, this is really dumb, but do you think that you could get a man you know to go into Planned Parenthood or some other "gender-affirming" quack clinic and claim ladyfeels to get you some estrogen? I'm not sure what the process would be like (I doubt it'd be anything approaching thorough) or if they even have what you need, but it's a thought.

wildclovrNovember 2, 2022

I don't think this sounds stupid. I do think it sounds like a plot of a great comedy movie, though! Why it's so crazy it might even work!

SecondSkinNovember 2, 2022

Feels very Steve McQueen esq

wildclovrNovember 2, 2022

Yes! Also somehow it should be a romantic comedy and totally the wrong people need to end up together.

FeministunderyrbedNovember 2, 2022

THAT’S a romcom I would watch. Probably the only one in the history of the world.

VestalVirginNovember 2, 2022

It really does sound like a great Romcom plot. Not sure it is a good idea in reality, though ... TIMs actively damage their health, and it would be pretty much coincidence if the doses and hormone combinations prescribed to a man with genderfeelz were the exact same ones that are recommended by actual doctors who actually want to improve health to a woman who actually needs hormone replacement.

Though of course, for the sake of that romantic comedy, I am sure a chemist would only need the raw materials to mix up the right dose ...

Feminist_UsernameNovember 2, 2022

Not dumb, brilliant. So messed up that this sounds like a viable solution to me.

danaseilhanNovember 2, 2022

It depends. Prescription medications are often prescribed doses according to the patient's weight. Better research this before you try it.

Committing_TerveryNovember 2, 2022

This is enraging. I’m so sorry to you & all the other women going through this shit.

I hate TIMs.

Lipsy•____•November 3, 2022

Last week, my pharmacy informed that the patch is out of stock and they will contact me when they get more

If you're not needlephobic, ask about estradiol cypionate or estradiol enanthate—injectable forms of "estrogen", which have better bioavailability because they go right into the bloodstream without having to navigate a kludge like a patch.

Depending on your doctor, you might need to go in every week or two for them to give you an IM (intramuscular) injection—which is the longstanding. time-tested administration pathway—or you could self-inject more frequently, subQ (subcutaneously), with insulin needles at home.
Studies are showing that all the steroid family injections—testosterone, estradiol, others—are just as effective subcutaneously, and if you're administering smaller doses more often then there won't be as much of a roller coaster effect.

GalkoNovember 2, 2022

Hugs to you, sister. I will be in your position within a few years (very soon, I hope) and have been warned I'll likely need HRT due to family history. Right now I'm still in peri, so I can depend on HBC instead to help, but it scares me to think about when I need it, my ration of HRT will be handed out by my local Planned Parenthood to some fetishist while I'm on the waiting list...

wearexxNovember 2, 2022

What do you mean by HBC?

[Deleted]November 2, 2022

Hormonal birth control :)

wearexxNovember 2, 2022

Ha! ok ty.

shewolfoffrance🦕November 2, 2022

🤬🤬🤬

If only you could identify as a male pervert.

HollyhockNovember 3, 2022

This is a fucking scandal. I agree, we're the smallest generation and yet there isn't enough for us? Young men are literally stealing estrogen from their mothers.

SecondSkinNovember 2, 2022(Edited November 2, 2022)

Are you in the uk?

If so our hrt shortage is nothing to do with TiMs (or little to do with them) and something to do with how little the NHS will pay for meds/patents running out and something or other…. I will see if I can find the article about it, because although it made perfect sense I can’t remember the details!

I had looked it up when there were articles about shortages due a while back because I take the gel (was on patches but my skin reacted badly) and didn’t want to run out. My pharmacy are fuckers over other meds I’m on they always run out of here, but ime the NHS is like this with lots ……

Have you tried a generic version or a different branded one or different type like the gel? Sometimes I switch these around with my other meds when they are short here or go to different pharmacies. Which sucks needing to do this extra labour when the supply should be straightforward, but I still do it. I also stockpile my meds, despite all the advice not to- not a massive stockpile, just a few months- I’ve found NHS are shockingly careless about this also. I have controlled substances prescribed-ritilin- and still find they will keep prescribing extra when I order early🤷🏼‍♀️. And it helps massively when they run out so.

*aww fuck I think it was a times article and I don’t have share token. But it’s something to do with NHS being cheap skates and will only budget so much and something to do with patent running out means generic ones can be made and companies can compete on price to get more and nhs didn’t buy enough for the demand, especially given there’s been a big push for menopause awareness so more women ask for it and the advice to drs that if a woman is 40 + and has symptoms they should just go ahead and prescribe rather than test or refer to consultants. And some manufacturing issues-as there is with all meds. And UK didn’t plan ahead for the expected price increases etc so fucked us like usual.

IshahchaiNovember 2, 2022

Nope, US. I’m on the generic patch. I’ll have to check my insurance drug schedule because the co-pay is insane for most brand name meds. I recently changed from the pill, so I have about a month’s worth of those, but I switched specifically because the pill did nothing for hot flashes. I’d rather be on something than nothing, for the bigger issues, but the hot flashes were causing massive sleep deprivation.

I also take (generic) adderall and they lock that shit up so tight. I can only stockpile if I take a med vacation. They will not fill it a day sooner than they need to.

wildclovrNovember 2, 2022

Oh gosh, this is concerning, that this is happening in the US now. Normally my expectation would be, it's not a shortage, it's just that they started charging way more for whatever it is. You can have it if you can pay for it but maybe not that many people can pay for it. I am terrified about what this stuff is going to cost whenever I get to needing it.

SecondSkinNovember 2, 2022(Edited November 2, 2022)

Ah ok, that’s different situation then. I was surprised the UK situation was so different to other countries when it came up in the news last year, but it seems other countries made effort to plan for it but because our NHS is fucked and broke they didn’t because there’s no profit….or something. I wish I could access the article because it was pretty interesting.

The NHS is so fucked they are shockingly negligent here. I haven’t seen a consultant in nearly a decade despite this being a requirement of being on adhd meds (it’s really hard to get these here for adults, I only have them because i was on them as a kid. Some ccgs here can just say no to adults wanting assessed for adhd or wanting meds). I haven’t even had my bp done since before the pandemic but they prescribe all the time. I have pregabilin also for pain (eds) and codine and when I’ve dislocated joints in the past I’ve called up and asked for Valium and been given a months worth without needing to see a doctor. Which suits me just fine because it’s hard to access them because of my kids needs because of their disabilities. But it’s crazy negligent. I’m v careful with my meds, I under take the amount prescribed plenty and never take too many. But it would be so easy to get addicted here. It’s disturbing, especially given it’s a difficult situation from the US because there’s no kickbacks for pushing things like oxy (only the generic version can be accessed here and it makes up less than 1% of pain prescriptions) and it’s hard to get drs or even pain clinics to prescribe at all here (I only got because eds so pain clinic consultants consider that a real pain problem, and chronic pain a fictional one disturbingly enough. And probably they believed me because I’m a little obsessive with sticking to physio, which my physios always seem to find unusual-our NHS really is such a disaster …). But despite not having big pharma pushing drugs here we still have drs so over worked they’ll prescribe over the phone because there’s just no time in the day to actually see patients. So we’ve high numbers of people hooked on the dirt cheap opiates and things like pregabilin that amplify the effect of opiates, yet my drs will fill way more prescriptions than they are supposed to and never have me in for med review….

I am def worried brexit will fuck up getting my prescriptions even worse though…

(Sorry off topic rant about NHS crazy. The fact they piss millions up the wall in stonewall diversity champion membership is even crazier when you known how desperately close the ship is to sinking and has been for years and years now)

pennygadgetNovember 2, 2022

If you don't mind me asking, what country do you live in? I know this has been an issue in the UK. So I'm wondering if Americans now have to ration these medications.

In any case, this is a predictable outcome of artificially increasing the demand for a particular drug. Demand was already increasing due to an aging population and numerous women being pushed onto the birth control pill. But now we have thousands of MEN being given these drugs (which are an ACTIVE DETRIMENT to their physical health), just so they can feel validated! Its yet another example of how the medical system hates females!

In a just world, TIMs would be told to stop taking their cosmetic titty pills until there's enough estrogen medicine for the real women who need it. I bet that, if there was a shortage of testosterone medication that men desperately needed, they would make the TIFs ration that shit.

IshahchaiNovember 2, 2022

US.

I never hear stories of viagra running out.

PointerNovember 2, 2022

You can get estrogen cream on Amazon. You might have to use a lot of it to match what you get in the patch, but it could tide you over until you can get more patches. Here's one with a dosage that's relatively high as these creams go: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BB3K3HDY?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_ypp_rep_k1_1_6&amp=&crid=2551WUCLMLNLB&amp=&sprefix=bi-est

wearexxNovember 2, 2022(Edited November 2, 2022)

I think its great to have an option like this but Amazon isn't a safe place. Its an open marketplace. Anyone can sell anything there and they often do. Amazon is completely unregulated. Many products are counterfeit. The beauty industry has the largest problems with this but others aren't immune. Some "companies" are selling counterfeit automobile brakes etc. These products are harmful to people and even causing death and Amazon isn't doing anything about it. (See the Toxic Beauty documentary )

Just beware, buying an estrogen cream from Amazon would be the same as getting it from one of Keffals catboy ranch recommendations. I wouldn't put it past them to be on Amazon already.

wildclovrNovember 2, 2022

I remember when Plan B first appeared on Amazon, and some of us thought it was at least possible some anti-choice people might sell a counterfeit Plan B pill that would be totally fake and wouldn't work.

PointerNovember 2, 2022

OK but I've used this one and I know it works because my bloodwork indicates that.

wearexxNovember 2, 2022

Ok ill check it out. Thank you

sicktodeathNovember 2, 2022

I’m so sorry!

smash_cakeNovember 2, 2022

I’m sorry. That is maddening.

HopscotchNovember 3, 2022

Hi, get on the reddit subs "steroids" and "steroidsxx" if you are in need of hormones and unable to source them. The people there will help you. You aren't allowed to directly ask for source websites, but you can tell them your issue and see if people offer help. I know it seems sketchy but those folks have reliable sources and the grown ups on the subs know what they're doing