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Original thread by Skeptical Mom @ Skeptical_Mom on twitter, transcribed and archived below. The original doesn't have a lot of traffic, but it's a great compilation that I wanted to preserve and share.

I have added on the specific sentence or paragraph that identifies the minor's age as of when they got their surgeries.


https://mobile.twitter.com/Skeptical_Mom/status/1555033868033560576

https://archive.ph/dkVwx

Skeptical Mom 🇺🇸 @ Skeptical_Mom

I get so tired of people saying kids don't get surgeries or hormones or that teens aren't kids. In USA & Canada, girls as young as 13 are given double mastectomy. Not as common, but boys also are given genital surgery as minors. A few examples in the following tweets:


1

12 years old, double mastectomy. Surgeon was Dr. Beverly A. Fisher @ BeverlyAFischer

4thWaveNow, 23 Jun 2019
Email Screenshot

NAME REDACTED, June 20 at 9:03 AM

I had to copy/paste this from an email I received from Dr. Fischer's office.

Dr. Fischer performed my son's top surgery when he was 12 years old.

She is one of the BEST people I have ever had the privilege to meet. If you live in or near Maryland, heck even if you don't and can swing it, I highly recommend Dr. Fischer for top surgery

$750 off top surgery during Pride month if scheduled by Dec 31, 2019


2

Double mastectomy at 13, possibly a hysterectomy at 15. By a Florida surgeon who trolls for teen customers on Tik Tok.

4W, Dec 16, 2021
TikTok Doctor Performed Breast Removal on "Trans" 13 Year Old Girl

On December 15, KiwiFarms user Falling Star made a disturbing find which they write indicates Dr. Gallagher performed a cosmetic mastectomy on a minor girl.

Following the path of a review left for Dr. Gallagher which included the patient's social media links with ample information on the minor's personal details, Falling Star noticed social media posts indicating the reviewer had been just 13 years old when Gallagher had operated on her.


3

Chris, double mastectomy at age 15

Huffpost, Apr 15, 2015 / Dec 6, 2017
Doubts Removed: The Day My Son's Breasts Were Surgically Taken Off

I fought, and with the help of his amazing counselor, Acey Mercer of Choices Counseling, and my wonderfully-progressive insurance company, CDPHP, at age 15, my son's top surgery was approved! We were both elated when hearing this life-changing news. My son's dream was coming true. He could hardly believe it.


4

Penny, double mastectomy at 15, regret at 16

The Velvet Chronicle, July 10, 2020
Double Mastectomy at 15, Detrans 16-Year-Old Now Seeks Reversal

Penny was just 11 years old when she decided that people online were right — that she was “transgender.” At 13, she was prescribed hormone blockers, and by 15, she’d had a double mastectomy. Now, at 16, she’s raising money on gofundme for a breast reconstruction.


5

Landon, testosterone and double mastectomy at age 13

Spectrum South, August 30, 2017
TRANSOUTHERN YOUTH: MEET LANDON RICHIE

It’s not until his mom, Erika, mentions an upcoming school band practice that I’m reminded the savvy individual sitting across from me is only 14 years old.

[...]

His posts are transparent, vulnerable, and honest, discussing everything from his transition journey (he has now been on testosterone for 21 months and is one year top surgery post-op) to friendships and relationships.


6

Unnamed female, double mastectomy at age 13. In this article, read down toward the bottom where surgeon Jeffrey Kyllo talks about removing the breasts of a 13-year-old who had been on testosterone since age 11.

The Seattle Times, October 7, 2016
Transgender kids: a family quest, a medical quandary

A few years ago, his colleague Hatfield had asked whether Kyllo would consider performing a mastectomy on a 13-year-old transgender boy.

“That’s awfully young,” Kyllo remembers thinking. He agreed to meet with the boy but made no promises. Once he talked to the family, he said, he saw how certain everybody was. “He had already been on testosterone for two years,” Kyllo recalled. “He had already changed his name legally.”

Kyllo performed the surgery. He described it as one of the most rewarding of his career. Before, the 13-year-old was “quiet and withdrawn,” Kyllo said. Afterward, “he wouldn’t stop smiling.”


7

This tweet is an error - the TIF was 15 when she went for a consult (Part 2), but only received the mastectomy much later, at 17 (Part 3). This article is painful to read not just because of how fucking long it is, but also because it reads like a bad broody Twilight teenage angst story, but with her breasts.

Jay, testosterone and double mastectomy at age 15

Oregon Live, Jul 28, 2017 / Jan 09, 2019
About a Boy: A transgender teen at the tipping point (Part 1)

Part 2: https://archive.ph/u8wFB

But Selva had never recommended a 15-year-old for surgery. She wasn't sure a surgeon would agree to do it.

Part 3: https://archive.ph/8Dbik

On the last night Jay had breasts, the snow began to thaw. [...] He was 17 and impatient. [...] He had waited two years for the final step. In the morning, he hoped, a plastic surgeon would sculpt his feminine frame into a masculine one. Then, he thought, his transition would be complete. Then he'd feel normal.

[...]

When Jay woke up three hours later, the breasts were gone.


8

Sam, testosterone at age 12, double mastectomy at age 14

The San Diego Union-Tribune, APRIL 7, 2016
How a girl born at 2 pounds became a happy boy

Going under the knife, the 14-year-old said later, “was kind of like a dream.”

“It was just pure excitement, just pure anticipation,” he said. “I was finally getting rid of something that had been bothering me for years.”

[...]

A hormone blocker was implanted in his left bicep to slow the growth of female characteristics. He bound his torso to minimize telltale curves. Two years ago, testosterone shots were added to his routine. To all outward appearances, he became a typical boy.


9

Unnamed male, orchiectomy (removal of testicles) at 15

4thWaveNow, Oct 10, 2021
Message Thread Screenshot

Parents of Transgender Children

REDACTED
Our daughter had an orchiectomy at 15 but we paid out of pocket, insurance didn't cover.

Author
do you mind sharing which doc you used and roughly how much it cost?

REDACTED
https:// themeltzerclinic.com Under 5k including airfare & hotel. Considering what her blocker implants cost, even after insurance, it was probably a wash considering she would've required at least 2 more before 18.

Author
thanks so much for sharing this. Yes, given the cost of blockers that sounds like a bargain. Much appreciation for the info share.


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Emily Tressa, estrogen at 13, genital surgery at 17

LoveToAllProject, 1 May 2020
EMILY TRESSA: THE DIGITAL AGE OF ADVOCACY

I started taking hormone blockers when I was twelve, and I did the shot for that. At 12, I actually ended up getting the implant so I never went through male puberty. After that, I started taking hormones when I was 13, and I've gone to therapy since I was young.

[...]

Luckily since my friend Jazz Jennings had surgery with the same surgeon, I was able to get in contact with him better. And he told me he understood me and that I could get it done before my senior year, so I did. I honestly got really lucky to be able to have it at 17.


11

It's 2022 and this has aged VERY badly.

Jazz Jennings, estrogen at 12, genital surgery at 17

Houston Chronicle, July 14, 2015
Transgender teen takes her story to TV in 'I Am Jazz'

Like many 14-year-old girls, Jazz Jennings goes to school, plays soccer, hangs out with friends, has a thing for mermaids and loves social media, kind of wishes her tummy were a little bit flatter, and lives life feeling good about herself.

[...]

Jazz started hormone blockers about three years ago to ward off male puberty, and two years ago began estrogen treatments.

And his surgery:

ShowBiz Cheatsheet, February 7, 2020
'I Am Jazz’: Why Did Jazz Jennings Need a Fourth Gender Confirmation Surgery After Complications?

The 19-year-old trans rights activist and star of TLC’s I Am Jazz had her first bottom surgery in 2018 after spending many years on puberty blockers. But serious complications required her to get not one, but two corrective procedures afterward.


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"Top" USA pediatric gender doctor advocating for male genital surgery for boys 16 years of age. This is the same doc who said if teen girls regret double mastectomy, they can "just go get some more" from a plastic surgeon.

4thWaveNow, March 20, 2016
Minor surgery? Top US gender doc agitates to lower age for genital surgery

Jo Olson-Kennedy March 19 at 9.16am • Studio City CA, United State

Hi friends, wondering if WPATH SOC 8 might be changing guidelines around genital surgery in trans young women younger than 18? Here's the issue: these girls are blocked at early puberty, so by high school they having been living and presenting as their authentic selves, but are forced to navigate high school with 11 y/o "male- genitals until 18. I have a handful of girls (and many more coming up) whose lives are on hold because of this. They are ready, their families are ready to support after care, they have strong mental health support, but the insurance won't cover because of the WPATH recs. Thoughts?


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This medical study involved girls ages 12-17 who identify as boys and whose breasts were amputated as part of their sex reassignment treatment.

Annals of Plastic Surgery, May 2022
Gender-Affirming Mastectomy Trends and Surgical Outcomes in Adolescents

Gender-affirming mastectomies performed from January 1, 2013, to July 31, 2020, in adolescents 12 to 17 years of age at the time of referral were identified. The incidence of gender-affirming mastectomy was calculated by dividing the number of patients undergoing these procedures by the number of adolescents assigned female at birth aged 12 to 17 years within our system at the beginning of each year and amount of follow-up time within that year.

[...]

Of the 209 patients who underwent surgery, the median age at referral was 16 years (range, 12–17 years) and the most common technique was double incision (85%).


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This medical study surveyed WPATH surgeons on their "Experiences and Attitudes Toward Vaginoplasty in Transgender Females Under 18 Years of Age in the United States." Stats include vaginoplasty on minors.

PubMed, Apr 2017
Age Is Just a Number: WPATH-Affiliated Surgeons' Experiences and Attitudes Toward Vaginoplasty in Transgender Females Under 18 Years of Age in the United States

A rising number of female-affirmed transgender adolescents are being treated with gonadotropin-releasing hormone analogues and subsequently cross-sex hormones at early or mid-puberty, with vaginoplasty as the presumed final step in their physical transition. But, despite the minimum age of 18 years defining eligibility to undergo this irreversible procedure, anecdotal reports have shown that vaginoplasties are being performed on minors by surgeons in the United States, thereby contravening the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) standards of care (SOC).

Chart from the study above. Look at the bottom and you'll see 11 of the 20 surgeons say thay have performed vaginoplasty on a minor.

Participants - n

Sex
Men - 13
Women - 7

Surgical specialty or board certification
General plastic surgery - 13
Urology - 4
OBG - 2
Plastic surgery + urology (double board certification) - 1

Primary practice setting
Private practice - 16
University hospital or teaching institution - 4

Insurance network contracted provider
Yes - 16
No - 4

Years in practice
Minimum—maximum - 4-43
Average - 19

Years performing GCS
Minimum—maximum - <1 - 26
Average - 10

Performed vaginoplasty on transgender minor
Yes - 11
No - 9

I found it hilarious that gender quacks themselves are identified by their sex instead of their gender. They all fucking know.

Original thread by Skeptical Mom @ Skeptical_Mom on twitter, transcribed and archived below. The original doesn't have a lot of traffic, but it's a great compilation that I wanted to preserve and share. I have added on the specific sentence or paragraph that identifies the minor's age as of when they got their surgeries. ------ https://mobile.twitter.com/Skeptical_Mom/status/1555033868033560576 https://archive.ph/dkVwx >**Skeptical Mom** 🇺🇸 @ Skeptical_Mom >I get so tired of people saying kids don't get surgeries or hormones or that teens aren't kids. In USA & Canada, girls as young as 13 are given double mastectomy. Not as common, but boys also are given genital surgery as minors. A few examples in the following tweets: ------- 1 >**12 years old, double mastectomy.** Surgeon was Dr. Beverly A. Fisher @ BeverlyAFischer >4thWaveNow, 23 Jun 2019 >[Email Screenshot](https://archive.ph/GLrI4) >>**NAME REDACTED**, June 20 at 9:03 AM >>I had to copy/paste this from an email I received from Dr. Fischer's office. >>Dr. Fischer **performed my son's top surgery when he was 12 years old.** >>She is one of the BEST people I have ever had the privilege to meet. If you live in or near Maryland, heck even if you don't and can swing it, I highly recommend Dr. Fischer for top surgery >>$750 off top surgery during Pride month if scheduled by Dec 31, 2019 --- 2 >**Double mastectomy at 13, possibly a hysterectomy at 15.** By a Florida surgeon who trolls for teen customers on Tik Tok. >4W, Dec 16, 2021 >[TikTok Doctor Performed Breast Removal on "Trans" 13 Year Old Girl](https://archive.ph/pxaXZ) >>On December 15, KiwiFarms user Falling Star made a disturbing find which they write indicates Dr. Gallagher **performed a cosmetic mastectomy** on a minor girl. >>Following the path of a review left for Dr. Gallagher which included the patient's social media links with ample information on the minor's personal details, Falling Star noticed social media posts indicating the reviewer **had been just 13 years old when Gallagher had operated on her**. --- 3 >**Chris, double mastectomy at age 15** >Huffpost, Apr 15, 2015 / Dec 6, 2017 >[Doubts Removed: The Day My Son's Breasts Were Surgically Taken Off](https://archive.ph/CbIJD) >>I fought, and with the help of his amazing counselor, Acey Mercer of Choices Counseling, and my wonderfully-progressive insurance company, CDPHP, **at age 15, my son's top surgery was approved!** We were both elated when hearing this life-changing news. My son's dream was coming true. He could hardly believe it. --- 4 >**Penny, double mastectomy at 15, regret at 16** >The Velvet Chronicle, July 10, 2020 >[Double Mastectomy at 15, Detrans 16-Year-Old Now Seeks Reversal](https://archive.ph/Ug21p) >>Penny was just 11 years old when she decided that people online were right — that she was “transgender.” At 13, she was prescribed hormone blockers, and **by 15, she’d had a double mastectomy.** Now, at 16, she’s raising money on gofundme for a breast reconstruction. --- 5 >**Landon, testosterone and double mastectomy at age 13** >Spectrum South, August 30, 2017 >[TRANSOUTHERN YOUTH: MEET LANDON RICHIE](https://archive.ph/WSHGM) >>It’s not until his mom, Erika, mentions an upcoming school band practice that I’m reminded the savvy individual sitting across from me is **only 14 years old**. >>[...] >>His posts are transparent, vulnerable, and honest, discussing everything from his transition journey (he has now been on testosterone for 21 months and **is one year top surgery post-op**) to friendships and relationships. --- 6 >**Unnamed female, double mastectomy at age 13.** In this article, read down toward the bottom where surgeon Jeffrey Kyllo talks about removing the breasts of a 13-year-old who had been on testosterone since age 11. >The Seattle Times, October 7, 2016 >[Transgender kids: a family quest, a medical quandary](https://archive.ph/9LQfB) >>A few years ago, his colleague Hatfield had asked whether Kyllo would **consider performing a mastectomy on a 13-year-old transgender boy**. >>“That’s awfully young,” Kyllo remembers thinking. He agreed to meet with the boy but made no promises. Once he talked to the family, he said, he saw how certain everybody was. “He had already been on testosterone for two years,” Kyllo recalled. “He had already changed his name legally.” >>**Kyllo performed the surgery.** He described it as one of the most rewarding of his career. Before, the 13-year-old was “quiet and withdrawn,” Kyllo said. Afterward, “he wouldn’t stop smiling.” --- 7 This tweet is an error - the TIF was 15 when she went for a consult (Part 2), but only received the mastectomy much later, at 17 (Part 3). This article is painful to read not just because of how fucking long it is, but also because it reads like a bad broody Twilight teenage angst story, but with her breasts. >**Jay, testosterone and double mastectomy at age 15** >Oregon Live, Jul 28, 2017 / Jan 09, 2019 >[About a Boy: A transgender teen at the tipping point (Part 1)](https://archive.ph/SQMki) >>Part 2: https://archive.ph/u8wFB >>But Selva had **never recommended a 15-year-old for surgery**. She wasn't sure a surgeon would agree to do it. >>Part 3: https://archive.ph/8Dbik >>**On the last night Jay had breasts**, the snow began to thaw. [...] He was 17 and impatient. [...] He had waited two years for the final step. In the morning, he hoped, a plastic surgeon would sculpt his feminine frame into a masculine one. Then, he thought, his transition would be complete. Then he'd feel normal. >>[...] >>When Jay woke up three hours later, **the breasts were gone.** --- 8 >**Sam, testosterone at age 12, double mastectomy at age 14** >The San Diego Union-Tribune, APRIL 7, 2016 >[How a girl born at 2 pounds became a happy boy](https://archive.ph/owS64) >>**Going under the knife, the 14-year-old** said later, “was kind of like a dream.” >>“It was just pure excitement, just pure anticipation,” he said. “I was finally getting rid of something that had been bothering me for years.” >>[...] >>A hormone blocker was implanted in his left bicep to slow the growth of female characteristics. He bound his torso to minimize telltale curves. **Two years ago, testosterone shots were added to his routine.** To all outward appearances, he became a typical boy. --- 9 >**Unnamed male, orchiectomy (removal of testicles) at 15** >4thWaveNow, Oct 10, 2021 >[Message Thread Screenshot ](https://archive.ph/9DPXg) >>**Parents of Transgender Children** >>**REDACTED** >>Our daughter **had an orchiectomy at 15** but we paid out of pocket, insurance didn't cover. >>**Author** >>do you mind sharing which doc you used and roughly how much it cost? >>**REDACTED** >>https:// themeltzerclinic.com Under 5k including airfare & hotel. Considering what her blocker implants cost, even after insurance, it was probably a wash considering she would've required at least 2 more before 18. >>**Author** thanks so much for sharing this. Yes, given the cost of blockers that sounds like a bargain. Much appreciation for the info share. --- 10 >**Emily Tressa, estrogen at 13, genital surgery at 17** >LoveToAllProject, 1 May 2020 >[EMILY TRESSA: THE DIGITAL AGE OF ADVOCACY](https://archive.ph/pjfKR) >>**I started taking hormone blockers when I was twelve**, and I did the shot for that. At 12, I actually ended up getting the implant so I never went through male puberty. After that, **I started taking hormones when I was 13**, and I've gone to therapy since I was young. >>[...] >>Luckily since my friend Jazz Jennings **had surgery with the same surgeon**, I was able to get in contact with him better. And he told me he understood me and that I could get it done before my senior year, so I did. I honestly got really lucky to be able to **have it at 17**. --- 11 It's 2022 and this has aged VERY badly. >**Jazz Jennings, estrogen at 12, genital surgery at 17** >Houston Chronicle, July 14, 2015 >[Transgender teen takes her story to TV in 'I Am Jazz'](https://archive.ph/ZCFfd) >>Like many **14-year-old** girls, Jazz Jennings goes to school, plays soccer, hangs out with friends, has a thing for mermaids and loves social media, kind of wishes her tummy were a little bit flatter, and lives life feeling good about herself. >>[...] >>Jazz **started hormone blockers about three years ago** to ward off male puberty, and **two years ago began estrogen treatments**. And his surgery: >ShowBiz Cheatsheet, February 7, 2020 >['I Am Jazz’: Why Did Jazz Jennings Need a Fourth Gender Confirmation Surgery After Complications?](https://archive.ph/QB9uc) >>The **19-year-old** trans rights activist and star of TLC’s I Am Jazz **had her first bottom surgery in 2018** after spending many years on puberty blockers. But serious complications required her to get not one, but two corrective procedures afterward. --- 12 >**"Top" USA pediatric gender doctor advocating for male genital surgery for boys 16 years of age.** This is the same doc who said if teen girls regret double mastectomy, they can "just go get some more" from a plastic surgeon. >4thWaveNow, March 20, 2016 >[Minor surgery? Top US gender doc agitates to lower age for genital surgery](https://archive.ph/SlSFr) >>Jo Olson-Kennedy March 19 at 9.16am • Studio City CA, United State >>Hi friends, wondering if WPATH SOC 8 might be changing guidelines around **genital surgery in trans young women younger than 18?** Here's the issue: these girls are blocked at early puberty, so by high school they having been living and presenting as their authentic selves, but are forced to navigate high school with 11 y/o "male- genitals until 18. I have a handful of girls (and many more coming up) whose lives are on hold because of this. They are ready, their families are ready to support after care, they have strong mental health support, but the insurance won't cover because of the WPATH recs. Thoughts? --- 13 >**This medical study involved girls ages 12-17 who identify as boys and whose breasts were amputated as part of their sex reassignment treatment.** >Annals of Plastic Surgery, May 2022 >[Gender-Affirming Mastectomy Trends and Surgical Outcomes in Adolescents](https://archive.ph/J8V5f) >>**Gender-affirming mastectomies** performed from January 1, 2013, to July 31, 2020, **in adolescents 12 to 17 years of age at the time of referral** were identified. The incidence of gender-affirming mastectomy was calculated by dividing the number of patients undergoing these procedures by the number of adolescents assigned female at birth aged 12 to 17 years within our system at the beginning of each year and amount of follow-up time within that year. >>[...] >>Of the 209 patients who underwent surgery, the median age at referral was 16 years (range, 12–17 years) and the most common technique was double incision (85%). --- 14 >**This medical study surveyed WPATH surgeons on their "Experiences and Attitudes Toward Vaginoplasty in Transgender Females Under 18 Years of Age in the United States."** Stats include vaginoplasty on minors. >PubMed, Apr 2017 >[Age Is Just a Number: WPATH-Affiliated Surgeons' Experiences and Attitudes Toward Vaginoplasty in Transgender Females Under 18 Years of Age in the United States](https://archive.ph/y3u6Z) >>A rising number of female-affirmed transgender adolescents are being treated with gonadotropin-releasing hormone analogues and subsequently cross-sex hormones at early or mid-puberty, with vaginoplasty as the presumed final step in their physical transition. But, **despite the minimum age of 18 years defining eligibility to undergo this irreversible procedure**, anecdotal reports have shown that vaginoplasties are being performed on minors by surgeons in the United States, thereby contravening the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) standards of care (SOC). >**Chart from the study above.** Look at the bottom and you'll see 11 of the 20 surgeons say thay have performed vaginoplasty on a minor. >>Participants - n >>**Sex** >>Men - 13 >>Women - 7 >>**Surgical specialty or board certification** >>General plastic surgery - 13 >>Urology - 4 >>OBG - 2 >>Plastic surgery + urology (double board certification) - 1 >>**Primary practice setting** >>Private practice - 16 >>University hospital or teaching institution - 4 >>**Insurance network contracted provider** >>Yes - 16 >>No - 4 >>**Years in practice** >>Minimum—maximum - 4-43 >>Average - 19 >>**Years performing GCS** >>Minimum—maximum - <1 - 26 >>Average - 10 >>**Performed vaginoplasty on transgender minor** >>Yes - 11 >>No - 9 I found it **hilarious** that gender quacks themselves are identified by their sex instead of their gender. They all fucking know.

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[–] Eava 30 points

It's like they have never heard of their literal most famous poster child, Jazz Jennings.

The ultimate hypocrisy is these people in one breath say minors don't get these procedures, then in the next demand "gender affirming care", opposed "conversion therapy", and demands that we "listen to children" because they know if they're trans when they're toddlers.

[–] ProxyMusic 13 points Edited

They also forget Britain's equally famous poster child for "child transition," Jackie Green, son of Mermaids' CEO Susie Green. Susie took Jackie to the US at age 12 to get him put on "puberty blockers," then several years later she took him to Thailand when he was 15 so surgeons could remove his testicles and flay and reconfigure his penis on his 16th birthday. In 2018, ITV made a television series "Butterfly" based on Jackie Green's story

https://www.bustle.com/p/who-is-jackie-green-the-real-life-story-behind-itvs-butterfly-is-so-inspiring-12227344

In the USA, there's also Xavier Trinity Neal, a severely autistic little African American boy with pica disorder, a history of mutism and severe clinical depression who was transed at age 4 - and ever since has been used as a show pony by his attention-seeking mother, DeShanna. At age 12, Trinity became the first child put on "puberty blockers" paid for by Delaware Medicaid. Delaware Medicaid also paid for Neal's castration and genital surgery several years later:

When she turned 12, Trinity made history by becoming the first child in Delaware to have their medical transition covered by Medicaid, a state program that offers health insurance coverage for lower-income families.

Now, Medicaid will be covering Trinity’s gender confirmation surgery. At 16 years old, she will be one of the youngest in her state to undergo this life-changing surgery.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/29/transgender-teen-who-began-transitioning-at-four-is-having-gender-reassignment-surgery-11971828/

Thanks to Trinity's "gender journey," his mum DeShanna has finally found her life purpose, and is now a FT "LGBTQ+" campaigner who specializes in promoting "child transition" and "trans rights." DeShanna, who has written a children's book about Trinity's transition published by Penguin, has made sure her efforts to turn Trinity into the African American version Jazz Jennings have been well documented by the press, and in great detail too. As is the case with Jazz's mother Jeanette, DeShanna Neal has revealed to the world a lot of information about Trinity and his three brothers that many parents would consider best kept private.

During lockdown, a photo spread and essay about the Neal family was published in which DeShanna revealed that both of Trinity's younger brothers, who are also severely autistic like Trinity, are on "gender journeys" too. DeShanna said the older boy, Hyperion, age 10, had come out as a "young trans woman," whilst the youngest, Thane, a 6-year old who reportedly "has several fits a day" due to problems with using the toilet, was gender fluid:

When I first met DeShanna (she/they), she told me about a long history of experiences she's had as a Black, queer woman in Delaware. And then I met her children, who face an intersection of hardships by living in a society that systematically disenfrachises Black, differently abled, and transgender people. Her two daughters, Trinity (17) and Hyperion (10), are both young trans women who are on the autism spectrum. Their identities are often invalidated by their peers and people in positions of power, but DeShanna has fought hard against inequitable school systems and blatant discrimination against her daughters.

DeShanna's two sons also face adversity as young Black individuals in society. Lucien (16) is a prodigal musician who can play cello better than any other. His vision is slowly degenerating, so he's learning to live life with little to no sight. Thane (6) is gender fluid and expresses themself through dance and clothing.

"I want to raise them in a home without trauma," said DeShanna, who has been through a lot of trauma, much of it at the hands of her parents. "I want to make sure that they will never experience the worst of humanity, as I did, and I will ensure the world they grow into is a better and safer place."

The captions under various photos are eye-opening and mind-boggling. They include the following revealing tidbits:

Trinity struggles with facial expressions due to her autism.

After watching DeShanna apply Trinity's makeup, Hyperion asked if she could wear some too. DeShanna immediately agreed and began applying pink eyeshadow to Hyperion's eyes. Hyperion often has trouble communicating her needs due to her autism, and DeShanna stay extremely attentive to small signs of excitement and curiosity.

Hyperion feels most confident and feminine when she wears her mother's makeup and Trinity's childhood wig. DeShanna handmade the wig for Trinity when she first communicated that she was a girl, over ten years ago.

Thane has several fits a day due to bathroom insecurities. After feeling uncomfortable going to the bathroom, he ran to his mother asking if he was in trouble.

https://www.maansi.photos/the-house-which-love-built

The wig worn in childhood byTrinity and later by Hyperion has recently been added to the state of Delaware's official collection of important historical artifacts:

This small collection of objects newly added to the State’s Historic Collection encompasses the Neals’ personal story and represents significant moments in their lives. The wig commemorates Trinity Neal’s start to living as her true self. After announcing her identity, she articulated how she wanted to have long hair, like her dolls, to express her real self. After visiting the beauty supply store, none of the wigs fit her quite right, so DeShanna Neal decided to make a wig for her daughter herself. Trinity Neal is neurodivergent and has sensory sensitivities, so it was essential for the wig to fit comfortably.

https://history.delaware.gov/2022/06/16/collection-close-up-rainbow-wig/

BTW, the mother of these poor kids now is running as a Democratic Party candidate for the Delaware House of Representatives: https://www.deshanna4district13.com/about

I guess trans kids are so special their skulls are shaped differently so wigs for cis people won't fit them.

This is an incredibly damaged woman. She is turning her boys into girls to create the girlhood she was deprived of. The only think that has kept her from transing Lucien is he is already seen as special gets attention because of his musical ability, and now his loss of sight. Her comment that if he becomes blind music will be his only career option is just so offensive. Like there are no blind lawyers, teachers, etc.

This may seem like an inappropriate question, but do these children have fathers who have any role in their lives?

I think Lucien's loss of sight makes it unlikely that he'd have much or any interest in being transed because gender identity and gender ideology are so heavily focused on the visual. Gender identity is mostly about how people look, dress, wear their hair, groom themselves; the colors they like; and the fabrics whose appearance they prefer and are drawn to - things that usually only matter to people who can see. Trinity and the other boys in the Neal family who are fully sighted are the only ones who can be conned into getting all excited and obsessing over the colors pink and purple, rainbow wigs and rainbows generally, glitter, sequins, shiny fabrics, brightly colored nail varnish, face paint. Lucien, not so much.

In early press coverage of Trinity's "transition," DeShanna did have a male partner living in the home with her/them. But it wasn't clear whether he's the father of any of the boys. Also, the mum's male partner seems to have departed the scene pretty early on in the saga of the unhappy little boy Xavier being turned into the "trans girl" Trinity. The "man of the house" is only in some of the very early stories and interviews done when Trinity was still quite small. After that, mom's man partner is nowhere to be seen and there's no mention of him, either.

[–] NoDayForADo 1 points Edited

Well he was 4. So his head was smaller than most of what you'd find in a wig store aimed at adut women. A good quality (believable) wig for a kid would typically be aimed at a child who had hairloss due to cancer... and thus look like real hair. But it seems like this kid didn't want a real hair wig... he wanted something flashy and wild and something that would not typically be made in kid's sizes. I feel like even if you went in a halloween store and bought a crazy colored wig, it wouldn't fit well on a 4yo's head.

One thing that is so batshit about all this is transgirls do NOT live like actual girls. Things have definitely changed recently with regard to kids coloring their hair but even still, you're not likely to find a 4yo with a completely unnatural hair color. I do know some parents who let their very young kids dye their hair but it's not the norm. Typical actual girls, even the girliest of them, do not normally insist on wearing nothing but the most over the top, spinny, tulley, glittery girly clothes 100% of the time. Little boys living as girls almost never pass the sniff test because everything they do is so over the top and not what most little girls actually do. They are more like tiny drag queens than little girls.

This is a tiny drag queen wig.

To have that many special needs children AND to be a munchie mom who transes her kids for a living. God it's horrific. No one around these kids went, waaaaait a second. None of this makes any fucking sense. This cult is insidious.

Eee gads! I’m going to come right out and say it; I really wonder if these kids would have any problems (aside from gender identity issues) if they were taken from her.

The 🚩 🚩 🚩 for MBP are flapping like crazy here.

According to press reports, Trinity's pica disorder was so severe when he was a young child that he ate a sizable portion of his wooden bed frame and chewed through a lot of his clothing too. Unhinged as this mother appears to be, I'm not sure that a malevolent mum alone can cause a young child to gnaw through non-food items like that.

Jennings had bottom surgery when only 17. It was on TV, so them saying no surgery is being done to minors is just goofy.

Don't forget Kim Petras either. He was on German tv before he even was famous for his singing career, talking about his transition and various medical treatments/surgeries for it.

You wouldn’t give puberty blockers to adults FFS. It’s in the name.

The way they say it never happens implies that they agree that these practices are harmful and immoral and shouldn't be done.

If they are harmful and immoral, then they should be banned, so they can stop whining about bans on transing children since they agree they shouldn't be done.

[–] Lipsy #bornnotworn 3 points

"I refuse to ban this thing that totally isn't happening!"

I'm amazed she wasn't suspended. I was just kicked off AGAIN for saying men can't become women. They can identify as women, but cannot become women. That's now hate speech.

lol, one visit to the r/detrans subreddit debunked this whole claim and many others for me. it in fact was what peaked me.

with the nature of reddit, however, I doubt they're going to have a community there for too long.

Good resource, many people don't believe or know it's happening even if they disagree with the practice! Thanks for putting this up

Why was I not surprised to see Gallagher, the butcher of Miami, on this list

In a TED Talk given in 2018-19 in which Tandy Aye, MD - Medical Director of Stanford Children's Hospital Pediatric and Adolescent Gender Clinic - "argues for why it may be more beneficial for surgery to occur" considerably earlier than age 18 to remove the testicles and penises of boys whose parents and doctors have medically transed them by putting them on GnRH analogs to block their development in puberty of adolescence, followed by Big Pharma estrogen.

Aye talks about a 12-year-old patient, Avery, whom she describes as "a girl with a penis" who "identified [as the opposite sex] as a pre-schooler" and was put on "pubertal blockers" as soon he began showing the first signs of adolescent puberty and will inevitably be put on estrogen in the near future.

"Her parents knew that these signs of puberty [that will cause "her testes to produce testosterone" and "her testes and penis to enlarge"] needed to be stopped... and so estrogen can be added...

So in Avery's case, she's gonna want estrogen. And later on, she can decide if gender affirmation surgery is right for her or not. Gender affirmation surgery is the removal of ovaries, uterus, penis or testes so that you can be physically aligned with the gender in which you identify... Right now, gender affirmation surgery [to the genitals] is reserved only for those who are 18 years of age or older. However, for someone like Avery, would it be more beneficial to undergo gender affirmation surgery [to remove the testicles and reconfigure the penis] before the age of 18? 18 is the age of majority, and many states have laws that prevent sterilization or the permanent removal of reproductive capability [of minors under 18]. However, these laws were made at a time when people like Avery were not being considered...

Aye goes on to promote doing surgeries to castrate and remove and invert the penises of young males like Avery before they turn 18. Aye says that laws which prohibit surgical sterilization of minors are pointless in the case of children like Avery anyway, because the puberty blockers and estrogen they were put on as children have already made them permanently sterilized. Aye says in a cheerful, boastful tone of voice I find frightening and disturbing:

Avery's reproductive capability to be a biological parent has been eliminated [already]. Avery's testes are non-functional! And in medicine, don't we often recommend the removal of non-functional organs, like an appendix?

https://youtu.be/L240CPOJ6FM

[–] NoDayForADo 2 points Edited

I think a lot of girls are not making this declaration until their first period or they are well into puberty, making the first claim a matter of technicality. Lupron can be used for a variety of things including the supression of menstruation. If puberty has already been completed, then technically you're not using a puberty blocker.

I suspect the number of kids who are truly on "puberty blockers" is not indicative of the number of kids making these trans declarations.

I have read birth control pills are also an option for girls who want to suppress periods which is achieving the same ends, but with a different medication. I think lupron or similar are more often used, though... easier to have an infrequent injection than a daily pill.

With or without actual surgical procedures, encouraging kids to socially "transition," using boy names, boy pronouns, wearing boy clothes - although not a single one of the girls I know ACTUALLY dreses like a boy, they all dress like they read the latest enby fashion pages on the internet... they all look like girls who want to be special and unique... like they raided the "technically neutral but no guy would ever wear that" section of hot topic and slapped on a pronoun pin to complete the look... it leaves them fixated on this identity, it stunts them from coming to terms with being girls, it makes it very hard for them to later walk it back and change their mind. If you spend 3-4 years convincing everyone around you that you're a boy and counting down the days till you'e 18 and can walk into Planned Parenthood and actually begin to transition... they're basically being funneled into surgery. Whether or not that takes place when they are minors, no steps are being taken to even explore the notion of changing course. It would be like going to high school and everyone telling you you're going to be a doctor, you need to go to med school for the honor of the family, everyone is counting on you, etc... it doesn't make you a doctor, but it also doesn't leave you feeling like you have any say in the matter.

To add to the list of notable cases: Today, Helen Webberly - the UK physician who founded the online service Gender GP, which prescribes "puberty blockers" and exogenous hormone to children and adolescents without ever examining them or meeting them in person - posted a thread on Twitter defending her decision to prescribe puberty blockers and/or testosterone to girls as young as 11 and 12. Webberley's actions caused her to be investigated and sanctioned by the General Medical Council, the body that oversees and regulates doctors in the UK. I've edited and made additions for clarity and accuracy:

2/ I was referred to the GMC in 2016 by Prof Hindmarsh and Prof Gary Butler at UCLH following my treatment of a 12 year old [female child who identifies as a] boy who had been started on puberty blockers via GIDS but then had been told he [sic] would not be able to start his male puberty until he was 16. [Meaning GIDS had told the child she could not be prescribed exogenous testosterone until she was 16.]

3/ I prescribed [the female child] testosterone at the age of 12 and [since then the child] has flourished. This is obviously not in line with UK practice, but is more in line with International best practice of ‘stages not ages’.

4/ During my investigation, the GMC added many more cases that they heard about and they finally brought two other trans patients to the final hearing. An 11 year old [female child] to whom I prescribed blockers and a 16 year old [female] to whom I prescribed testosterone.

9/ They [GMC] felt that one of their findings, regarding the extent to which I had discussed fertility options with the 11 year old [for whom I prescribed] on blockers, as opposed to with [the child's] mother, was so severe that they should suspend my practice for another two months.

10/ They also dictated that I should attend another GMC hearing in August to explain how I had ‘failed Patient C by not discussing with [11 year-old the child] the risks to [the child's] fertility before prescribing GnRHa treatment’.

11/ My firm belief is that I did not fail Patient C in any way, and that my care was correct and timely and potentially life-saving. I believe that I discussed fertility options with [the child's] Mum until she was happy, and that she had discussed this with [the child].

12/ For me to get my license back, I would have to publicly agree that I failed this patient, and I can’t do that. So I have lodged an appeal with the High Court for them to decide whether the Tribunal may have made an error in finding that I had failed in this regard.

https://twitter.com/MyWebDoctorUK/status/1555230924014555137