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Will democratic politicians ditch any, even the weakest efforts, to support women's rights after the November election? Sure their platforms are very target as far as abortion rights are concerned but the power of the supreme court has to change before anything can be done about that. I think that support for trans rights will be most important to even the democratic women who win and that Biden is waiting to pass Title IX changes until after the election. Hoping I am wrong.

Will democratic politicians ditch any, even the weakest efforts, to support women's rights after the November election? Sure their platforms are very target as far as abortion rights are concerned but the power of the supreme court has to change before anything can be done about that. I think that support for trans rights will be most important to even the democratic women who win and that Biden is waiting to pass Title IX changes until after the election. Hoping I am wrong.

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Well apparently a large chunk of democrat senators didn't sign Bidens shitty female betrayal title ix knockoff, so clearly there's some Democrat officials that still actually give a shit about women.

If women don't turn out to vote this November despite the carrot on the stick RvW being dead then I think then and only then will the blue party take a step back and actually care what women have voiced their concerns about.

If they win comfortably and if women still turnout despite being thrown under the heels of white degenerate males in dresses, then forget it.

Personally I think we're heading into an extremely conservative era and I don't blame mothers one bit for it. Democrats have really put all their eggs into the pervert basket.

Think of the 1970's pornography binge, people got tired of it then they voted for Reagan. That's what we're getting into now.

I didn’t realize that was part of the dynamic behind Reagan’s victory. To be fair I don’t know whole lot about 70s/early 80s US politics. Anything you recommend reading about this?

No, I have never heard or found any mention of it anywhere. Selective amnesia? You can find old photos of Times Square lined with XXXrated parlors but when Reagan came in they cleaned it up. And every town had an adult strip, I remember as a teenager riding with my parents on a freeway (Seattle east side) passing a drive-in theater and seeing people fucking on the big screen. My parents were horrified. Pornography was everywhere and in your face. It was like a whole social contagion. One result of this era was the increasing popularity of fundamentalist preachers and their exhortation to vote, there is some documented history on that change in the electorate. Previously religious Christians were advised to not participate in the election process. An oft heard religious topic was the rampant sexual immorality. The “Moral Majority” PAC (Political Action Committee) became quite popular and powerful and pushed the media to report a constant stream of child molestations, beastiality and pornographer mafia. The big crackdown and cultural wake-up came under Reagan when his enforcers caught underage porn star Tracy Lords at age 16 in the act of making a porn movie. You may find some mention of it on the internet.

Personally I did not like Reagan and his long-term legacy is one of economically ruining America but looking at the debauchery of the Carter era its not too surprising people voted Reagan in.

[–] drdeeisback 6 points Edited

I haven't read this (though am now remembering I want to) but this guy is supposed to be pretty good.

https://www.ft.com/content/78988834-1712-11e4-b0d7-00144feabdc0

Actually have just discovered he's finished the set:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/aug/16/reaganland-review-rick-perlstein-jimmy-carter-ronald-reagan

"Democrats have really put all their eggs into the pervert basket." You're absolutely right.

James/Jennifer Pritzker's very expensive pervert basket. God but that ogre is an utter nightmare to behold.

Personally I think we're heading into an extremely conservative era and I don't blame mothers one bit for it.

Globally, Italy and Sweden right now are seeing right-wing parties on the ascent. Their opponents can't blame Putin anymore as he has really screwed the pooch and is preoccupied with saving face in Ukraine (or saving himself from being thrown out a window). Chile rejected a constitutional proposal that, at the start, was supposed to be about labor protections and the safety net ,but got hijacked by TRA interest groups that poisoned it with gender bullshit. Canada is about to elect a new premier in Alberta who is further to the right than the previous guy, while Trudeau and the NDP's coalition-by-any-other-name is facing backlash for overdosing on wokeism, and the Ontario schoolteacher fiasco is pissing everyone off including the students. It's probably only a matter of time before Democrats get the wakeup call and kick in the pants that multiple other countries are facing at present, or on the verge of facing. They can't blame Trump or Putin forever or trot out accusations of white supremacy ad nauseam. At some point they have to look in the mirror and realize that the problem is right there.

They can't blame trump but they will try their hardest. Anything to not have to look in the mirror.

They can't blame trump but they will try their hardest. Anything to not have to look in the mirror.

Up until Trump's ascension, people on the left were still blaming George W Bush for every problem. They’ll use Trump as a scapegoat for decades to come

Personally, I think we're heading into an extremely conservative era and I don't blame mothers one bit for it. Democrats have really put all their eggs into the pervert basket.

I think you're right. When the backlash finally comes for all this woke, queer, & trans nonsense; its going to be huge. And many people won't care if abortion rights are thrown into the stone age if it means their daughters aren't forced to be in school with dudes like Titty McScrote or doing story hours with drag queens who are registered sex offenders

[–] femlez34 13 points Edited

Idk, on the other hand if women sit at home and appear not to care about their rights being taken away, maybe dems will just stop fighting for abortion rights as well. Plus losing the senate means we can lose access everywhere, even in all the blue states. I don't think not voting is the best way to accomplish our goals. To move dems on trans issues we need to be more involved in primaries, not less involved in politics overall. When LGB people got marriage rights we stopped being involved with LGBT organizations, the result is TIPs stepped in and took over, implementing their own priorities. The same thing will happen when we bow out of party politics, the woke will just completely capture the party.

I would love to support more GC candidates in the primaries but the democrats seem intent to deplatform any GC candidate. Maud Maron was squashed by the Dems specifically for her opposition to the Title IX reforms

Idk, on the other hand if women sit at home and appear not to care about their rights being taken away, maybe dems will just stop fighting for abortion rights as well.

When people don't vote at all who usually vote blue, politicians don't think those demographics don't care- quite the opposite. They think "oh shit, these people are pissed and we're losing them." And they court and do whatever they need to do to get those people back in their corner. Democrats are carried hard by women- not just because of voting but because of all the free labor women do for the party. Calling and knocking on doors and recruiting. Appealing to people and turning purple states blue, etc. If that starts to dissipate, they will notice and they will try and court women back. Right now, they know all they have to do is tsk and waggle their finger and female socialization will guilt women into falling in line, without question.

The same thing will happen when we bow out of party politics, the woke will just completely capture the party.

The party is already captured. I don't know how much worse it has to get before people see it for what it is. The democratic party not only enables but encourages and financially supports and benefits from the indoctrination of children into gender scientology and mutilation, through public schools. And anyone who questions this is silenced and attacked. What will it take for people to wake up to how crazy that is?

I used to volunteer & donate. But now, when I am starting to get phone calls from real ppl (because I helped in the past) to volunteer, I very politely tell them I will not volunteer for any candidate who denies the reality of sex, supports puberty blockers, sterilizing & surgery on kids, putting males in women's prisons & prison cells, & denies the physical strength, speed & stamina of males who went thru male puberty- esp in sports. I also tell them I object to the use of the terms now used for women-like cervix havers, etc., but men are still referred to simply as men. As the election gets nearer, if you are registered as a Dem, or volunteered, you will probably start to get phone calls from real ppl not robocalls asking for votes, help & money. Let them know why, politely. After a few ppl they may let their crew leaders know. Maybe it will filter up.

Exactly. If we vote for the Democrats now, all it does is send the message that we are okay with all this TRA crap. If it looks like they have our support, they will continue trying to undermine women's legal rights.

That's me!! I always give money, I write postcards and I vote Dem in every election. I'm sitting out this November. There are NO GC Dems to support. I also gave Maud Maron money to no avail. The Dems can try to figure this all out without me for now.

It will take for people to care more about the true than to appaer "normal" and follow what the majority does to feel safe. So the only way out is if people notice gender ideology is not what the majority thinks.

American women need to be more involved than ever. We need to push each party away from their idiotic, destructive, misogynist far reaches and back toward a more sensible middle.

I don't want a government that recognizes me as a woman only because they recognize anyone and anything as a woman.

I don't want a government that recognizes me as a woman and therefore categorizes me as a lesser human who doesn't deserve reproductive rights, or possibly even voting rights (depending on what flavor of crazy gets voted in).

[–] Kevina 9 points Edited

The party has been bought at the top. Anyone who dissents will be excommunicated.

Up for re-election were 9 of the 30 senators who didn't sign Biden's trans protection update for Title IX. 30 is a lot though. I wonder if there are new democratic candidates who have trans rights on their agenda?

[–] Fury 21 points

They could have easily passed a big making abortion a federal right, while holding the House, Senate and White House. The day after the Supreme Court struck Roe, the House brought to the floor a bill for Transgender Civil Rights. Biden, in his first year, also could have ratified the ERA, which would have made Roe moot. The Democrats hate women and have been holding women's votes hostage since Roe. Well, now it was lost, on their watch, while holding all legislative power. So, good. Nothing more to bribe women with.

[–] femlez34 6 points Edited

The House has passed two bills protecting abortion rights in the last year, the first one in response to Texas. Unfortunately, the House can't do anything by itself, we don't have a majority in the Senate as long as the filibuster is here. The Roe decision happened because dems didn't always control everything, those justices were nominated and confirmed by republicans.

Kamala is the tie breaker.

[–] femlez34 4 points Edited

She only gets it to 51, we need 60 to overcome the filibuster.

Edited to add for anyone who isn't aware: The House doesn't have a filibuster, that's why they can vote on a lot of bills and get a simple majority yes or no. The Senate doesn't vote on almost anything these days, because you need 60 Senators to even bring it to a vote. Fortunately the filibuster can't be applied to the budget, so that's the main vehicle for a president/Senate majority pushing through their agenda. Abortion rights can't be considered a budget issue though, so we're basically screwed unless we get 60 Senators or get rid of the filibuster. As far as I know, we only need a simple majority to get rid of the filibuster, but we don't have the votes for it, Manchin and Sinema want to keep it. Basically the two of them shouldn't be considered dems, they're like independents who sometimes caucus with dems. So dems have 46 Senators, repubs have 50, and there are four who are either formally or informally independent (two that are dependable dem votes from Maine and Vermont, and the two previously mentioned who are swing votes). We need 51 legit dems to overcome the filibuster and pass abortion rights.

She can't break a tie if there isn't one. And to get a vote on abortion, Dems need to change the filibuster rule. And right now both Manchin and Synema would vote against a rule change.

The only thing that might have gotten them to abandon or at least deemphasize TRA crap was a thumping in the midterms, and now it looks like that trend is going to reverse itself because Republicans are now the "dog that caught the car" with their Pyrrhic victory against Roe vs. Wade. So the Democrats won't take a lesson on any of their garbage policies for as long as their opposition keeps seizing defeat from the jaws of victory.

The only upside I can think of is that if they double down on this, the backlash is only going to grow louder (it's already showing up in blue states), and it will cost them in 2024 when the "freshness" of the Dobbs decision isn't so raw anymore and they have nothing to run on but a shit economy and pronoun pins. That Z-cup teacher in Canada is pissing a lot of people off, for instance, and Trudeau is unusually quiet as are his junior partners in parliament, despite loud online TRAs demanding that he say something in defense of the real-life Mr. Garrison. TRAs are overplaying their hand because they feel they can. But if Biden is foolish enough to run again, he will be 82 and probably unable to articulate his own name against a snappy and pugnacious DeSantis. DeSantis will get attacked for the Martha's Vineyard bus stunt but he's got a slick comms team that will hit back.

Bottom line at least as it appears to me, is things probably have to get worse in the short term before they get better.

Dumb question, probably--but if abortion rights are already gone what's the point of voting Democrat? They'll bring them back? They didn't do enough to keep them from being removed in the first place, who will trust them to actually attempt to reinstate them?

Biden claims at least that if they add more Senate seats and keep the House, then a federal abortion-rights bill will be tabled. Although they had plenty of opportunities to do this before and never bothered, so I don't know how many are willing to believe this; I myself am treating anything that comes from Herr Schniffer and his party as the equivalent of Lucy van Pelt's promise not to pull away the football for the eleventy bajillionth time. And even if they did table a bill, it'd probably have garbage language like "pregnant people" or "individuals with uteruses" in it anyway.

[–] OneStarWolf 7 points Edited

They’ll force team it with trans gender shit 100%. At this point, I’d rather just vote locally to get my state to pass common sense pro abortion law. Cant seem to trust the national Dems to do it without trying to hitch bullshit gender ideology to it.

And even if they did table a bill, it'd probably have garbage language like "pregnant people" or "individuals with uteruses" in it anyway.

Also, any abortion bills pushed by Biden's administration will most likely have trans shit attached to it. So if you vote for the "Fifty State Abortion Access Bill", you're also voting for the fine print that says it'll also be a civil right for prepubescent children to get hormones and genital surgeries without their parents' consent.

[–] Fury 16 points

They have the Senate right now, they have the House right now, this is bribery. They can go get fucked.

They may get around to it, but they haven't done so yet. They just want to emphasize how great they are "for women" (maybe shelve the "for uterus havers" for the miderterm propaganda) while taking all of our other rights away. Meanwhile, if they do manage to win, it's guaranteed more full speed ahead on the trans shit.

Biggest increase in Social Security benefits in years which is supposed keep the boomers onboard.

I mean. We've also had massive inflation. My best guess is that in terms of actual buying power, that increase in Social Security benefits didn't go very far.