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GC Social MediaHow many times are we going to have to see this?
Posted December 20, 2022 by penelopekitty in GenderCritical

Edit: This post is NOT about whether or not we can clock trans people. It's about how every prominent detransitioner never misses the chance to take potshots at the very people who have working for years to try to help them and elevate their voices. It's shitty.

How many times will we have to see this? Tulip and Chloe Cole stirring the shit. A few months ago it was Helena.

Detrans people are generally not in line with feminism or GC thought. Don't forget there is a reason they transitioned in the first place. We all know there are numerous comorbidities associated with this including a high level of personality disorders.

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softglowDecember 21, 2022

Thanks for your insight, you've given me something to think about, and I do want to make it known that I can't abide an asswipe; I defend Chloe only on the basis that she's still very young, she's been shitty and defends the misogynistic politicians or talking heads courting her. I don't like that, and I don't like the arrogance with which she talks down to feminists and liberal women, either.

I just want to point out that people like her and Tulip aren't representative of the wider (female) detrans community; I know that sounds familiar ("not all men") but I know or know of so, so many detrans women who aren't like this at all, and it feels counterintuitive to alienate women who've been hurt by misogyny because some of their numbers are still actively courting it by being little assholes.

Not shitting on your right to judgment, I guess I'm coming in from a different community, where the cleaving from the TRA community's already been done.

lucreciaDecember 21, 2022

I don't know much about these people so I'm not passing any judgement on them personally. The trick linked in OP didn't seem like a big deal. I don't know Chloe's story. I know the story of what happened to Ritchie and it's fucking horrifying. I know the story of what happened to Helena and it's also a horror story. Imo caring about what happened to them (including caring enough to share it and/or try to stop it) isn't some self-sacrificing feminist act that detrans people ought to be grateful for, or some political calculation, it's basic humanity.

My point was more that you're investing time trying to make OP think better of detrans people, and you have little if any reason to see OP as an authority on anything in the first place. Your way of trying to gain that approval it is to distance yourself from people who OP disapproves of and call them names. So what I was getting at is to look a bit deeper into the impulse to do that, because I think that is an approach that trans online culture (or tribalistic online culture more generally) really encourages.