Dan was disciplined, and now he isn't allowed to be in the same part of the building as Claire anymore.

This is a punishment? Sounds like a reward to me.

Interesting how the only time I've heard of a punishment like that is when it's a man. Women are either fired, or told to continue to share a space (even bathrooms or locker rooms) with the man.

I could be reading too much into this, since every company's policies are different. But I can't help but wonder if this has something to do with employers seeing women and thinking "we can change her mind, we can get her to comply" and seeing men and thinking "he'll never change his mind, we better keep him away from the TIM to prevent further issues".

Don't trust Dan to keep his mouth shut. Don't trust Dan to not think you're coming on to him. Don't trust Dan to not believe in trans for the same reasons you do -- he could be a fervent Old Testament xtian. Don't trust Dan.

Would Dan stand up for you?

No, don't. Never treat a male co-worker as an ally. I'm not saying women co workers will always have your back, but I so frequently hear of men screwing women over at work I just wouldn't take the risk.

You feel empathy for him and his situation and you are considering offering yourself as his ally; instead you should be thinking tactically about how to keep your job in such a toxic workplace.

("Dan")... mentioned to another coworker that he didn't believe the whole transgender thing, and this coworker told several others

Never trust that person with any information about yourself.

You don't have to tell him you are GC or that you are on his side on this particular issue. You only have to mention that you have also been called transphobic. Saying that doesn't give any clue as to which side of the trans debate you are on. It just allows him to know there is someone else who has been accused at some time regardless of whether the accusation is true or false. He will understand you have been in his shoes and that he isn't alone.

All of these people went to our management together to complain and insist Dan be disciplined for it. I work for an extremely woke company, so Dan was disciplined, and now he isn't allowed to be in the same part of the building as Claire anymore.

Do you work at a junior high school? Or with junior high school aged people? Because tbh I can't believe this type of juvenile nonsense is tolerated at a workplace.

Dan") who — long story short — mentioned to another coworker

This is he said she said nonsense. If I were the manager here I would have laughed this troublemaking snitch out of my office. If I were Dan I would have denied this bs, laughed it off and walked out on any "discipline".

This is bullshit office drama, don't get involved. Focus on your work. It'll become apparent soon enough who the problem is.

I say either go all out and speak out, and look for another job, or keep silent.

Whistleblowers and dissenters often say that they have lots of colleagues who come up and say they secretly agree with them, but are silent while they’re being disciplined, and it doesn’t make them feel any better; if anything, it makes them feel even more alone and unjustly singled out, if not completely abandoned (Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein have talked about this on their podcast, iirc).

So unless you are willing to speak out in his defense and put your own job on the line, just don’t. It won’t make him feel more amenable toward you and it won’t make things better.

I won’t tell you to speak out publicly, because I have to be stealth for different reasons (namely the well-being of my children), and I know what a risk it is, although I would applaud you if you did speak up. But it has to be one or the other.

I second sending an anonymous note. I know I’d be delighted if someone voiced that they agree with me after I’ve been disciplined and made out to be a bad person because of totally valid views.

Firstly, the treatment he received for a fairly tame comment is completely dystopian, and a big reason why I despise "trans" people and their allies. They're literal fascists in pink and blue clothing.

Second, it's up to you, but I think it may be worth the risk. I have a male friend who hates this "trans" bullshit too now, and it's been really nice having someone IRL to talk to about this stuff without worrying about him shunning, shaming, snitching, and/or blacklisting me. We both know how dangerous it is to openly defy the Left's dogma, so we're in the same boat.

I would hope that his recent experience would encourage him to keep it a secret should you start talking to him about it.

You could slip him an anonymous note if you want to send the message that he is not alone.

But I think you are right to be cautious on that - if even a man got disciplined, you could get in big trouble for having the same views. Usually men get away with almost anything.

But because they're all blind libfems, they still agree that Dan is "transphobic" and needs to be "more educated."

Holy shit. This guy went through a struggle session because he is uncomfortable with his demented colleague enacting a sexual fetish in the workplace. What kind of fresh hell is this.

Dan and I aren't friends, but I really wanted to go up to him when we're alone at some point and let him know I'm in his corner on this issue and that I also don't buy into transgenderism. I feel really alone and isolated in my GC views (this site is a lifesaver) and I want to let him know that he isn't alone, either.

Yes, do this. He will appreciate it so it will be a good deed in that regard. It will also be a weight off your chest and you will feel immense relief to speak freely with another person. It will boost your confidence that you listened to your conscience and did something purely because you knew it was the right thing to do.

Thing is, I'm afraid that even if I told him not to tell anyone, he'd eventually say something like "hey, at least Snails is on my side," and then I'd be ostracized and disciplined too, possibly even fired.

Our society decayed to this point because everyone has been too afraid to speak up. What you must realize is that whatever it costs you to be brave and speak the truth today, it will cost much more later on. Inflation on courage is crazy.

So anyway what should I do? Is there a way I can tell him that I'm on his side in a way that wouldn't potentially get me in hot water?

Go make friends with him. You will feel better about yourself that you did something courageous by speaking the truth and being kind to a person in need. It might cost you nothing. There is no reason to think he's going to rat you out. Worst case scenario, it costs you this job - but you can find another job. Your soul is telling you to be brave and kind and that is an instinct that will benefit you more than keeping this job in the long run.

I’d search for another job asap. This sounds like a really shitty environment to work

How awful to be put in a position where you can’t speak up about entirely legitimate gender critical beliefs for fear of disciplinary action.

Your colleagues have already proved they will report any GC opinions as “transphobia”. I would struggle to function in such an oppressive Orwellian environment and would look for another job, but appreciate that’s easy for me to say (now retired, thank goodness, with none of this utter bollocks to contend with) and much harder for you to do.

Really sorry to hear about how awful your workplace is. I'd recommend finding a new job if you can, forcibly isolating coworkers is an insane solution to this problem.

But I don't recommend talking to they guy. I'd be my life savings he's not actually GC, he's just a misogynist. Men are almost always anti-trans for same reasons they're anti-female. You can certainly try if you want though.

I think I’d be inclined to keep my head down. For a while at least.

I spoke up at my job and things have been weird for me since, so maybe that clouds my judgement. But if I could go back in time and not say it, I would.

Dan was disciplined, and now he isn't allowed to be in the same part of the building as Claire anymore.

Don't threaten me with a good time, HR!

Without more familiarity with what Dan is like, it's hard to say what you should do. Trust your gut. But it seems unlikely to me, from what you've written, that he'd screw you over if you related to him. I hadn't thought of the idea of an anonymous note until other posters said it, but maybe that's a good middle ground option for you.

DO NOT tell this man anything about how you feel about anything if you need your job.

He will bring it up to defend himself down the road. “You know snails doesn’t think he’s a woman either and agrees I shouldn’t have been disciplined.”

Men are cutthroat about their jobs.

I don't think you would gain anything from befriending an anti-trans Man. Men can't be gender critical.

Hm, in this case I think what I might suggest you do is something a bit more subtle - you could tell him something like "I think that whole thing that happened regarding you and the Claire situation was overblown/an overreaction." He would probably realize what you mean by that, but it's not as obvious as outright telling him you're GC yourself.

Anyways, regarding some of the other comments' advice, you know your coworkers better than we do so use your best judgement as to whether Dan seems trustworthy or not. One of the suggestions that you should try to become closer friends with him could be a good idea, to get a better sense for how trustworthy or not he might be. Additionally, maybe you could also figure out whether he's "transphobic" for conservative reasons or truly GC.

On the other hand, I wonder if the other TRA-aligned coworkers would become wary of you merely for trying to become closer friends with Dan, since he's known as "transphobic," even if you didn't (yet) say anything expressing support of his views?

So as some others have said, perhaps an anonymous note if you would be able to deliver it anonymously - also beware of your handwriting in that case too. I guess you could write in the note to not tell or show it to anyone else, but there's no guarantee he wouldn't say "so I got an interesting anonymous note yesterday... wonder who it could be from" and show it to other coworkers.

I’d say just keep it steppin. Say nothing, keep your job, and come here to vent. Things are set up in such a manner these days that people, corporations, social media and just about everything and everyone else will throw a natural woman under the bus to “protect” an autogynephile. To protect a male, essentially. Can’t trust it.

Don't do it. The chances of him turning on you and throwing you under the bus are high, especially since he's not really your friend. You can show your support in a vague way, but for the love of fsm, do not trust this man. At the end of the day, men stick together no matter how much they might disagree

I admit, I didn’t read too far in before I came to my conclusion. But men are never your true allies when it comes to gender.

There's another guy I work with ("Dan") who — long story short — mentioned to another coworker that he didn't believe the whole transgender thing, and this coworker told several others, including Claire. All of these people went to our management together to complain and insist Dan be disciplined for it. I work for an extremely woke company, so Dan was disciplined, and now he isn't allowed to be in the same part of the building as Claire anymore.

thats illegal and Dan should take the company to court