I volunteer at a wild animal care clinic, and have been doing so for almost 10 years. We have a former volunteer who became a paid employee recently. On our online messaging group, she recently changed her name to include they/them pronouns.
I haven't had any issues with her, she hasn't said a word when I've referred to her as "she" or "her." She even genuinely laughed when she was eating from a container that looked just like the ones we store animal food in, and another volunteer and I joked to her that we'd have to label her container like one of our patients' food containers to prevent us from accidentally feeding her lunch to someone else (we put the species, sex, and adult vs. juvenile age bracket of the animal on the container, so it would be NAME: Adult Human Female).
Here's the thing.
We rehabilitate animals. They're not always sexually dimorphic, and it truly does not matter most of the time. We usually guess and just call an animal she or he in conversation because it's easier than calling it by a long (over 7 digits) intake number. I find it so amusing that this "they them" woman just casually determines an animal's pronouns based on observable biological markers, but she's a special soul with an inner identity that differs from her observable biological markers and therefore must be announced to the world.
Blessed terf parrot 🦜 <3 🥰
All jokes aside, though, I really hope they don’t just abandon this parrot just because of this nonissue. It would be heartbroken 🥺🥺
This. Parrots are already given up at astronomically high rates because people are idiots and buy what's essentially a toddler with knives for hands that will likely outlive you as a pet, and if this sweet birdie gets dumped or even rehomed for this purpose, I am going to scream.
what's essentially a toddler with knives for hands
Hahaha I love this analogy!
It's why I would never get one. They are generational pets, and your kids have to love them as much as you do. They really shouldn't be pets at all.
Yes. Makes me wonder what will become of the parrots who belong to a bloke I knew. He was single with no intention of marrying, and no kids.
This. They need a hell of a lot of knowledgeable care. I knew a bloke who went through all sorts of trouble trying to keep his parrots (plural) happy.
Also they can't be neutered and puberty hits them hard
This too. And apparently if you stroke their chest/abdomen, it's basically rubbing them off or being overtly sexual, so you have this massive issue of sexually frustrated male parrots thinking their owner is their mate and, well.
Oh my god, I thought that nothing could ever top the TIM being upset that his wife's dog (who's afraid of males) kept being afraid of him after he transitioned. This is gold.
Oh god, lol. Of course some dumbass man expected a dog to be as stupid as he is.
Oh! That one is a classic! Ended with something like the woman saying "what makes a dog identify my 'wife' as male?".
Edit: found the one i was thinking of.
https://ovarit.com/o/Radfemmery/19187/dogs-are-terfs-reeeeeeee
Yes, stories like the transphobic dogs and such are my favorites! I've got a whole subfolder called "Animals are TERFs" on my computer just for things like this lmao
Oh my god I love that!! I have folders on my computer for all other type of transfoolery, but that one is hilarious.
Immediately what I was reminded of when I read this post. It's hilarious they expect non-human animals to understand human social conventions, and then to also buy-into human delusions that are based off of the aforementioned social conventions. The dog doesn't care about your fetish, dude.
Good luck, a lot of parrots live a long time and have great memories, 50 years from now they'll be saying things they learned as a young bird.
Parrots really are amazing. My uncle died 30 years ago. And his parrot still calls his name. 😥
The parrot outlived my uncle and my grandparents (one of my aunts has him now)
They are so sweet, long lived , smart, and connected to their people. They one of the hardest animals to take on as an adoptee due to their past connections.
Birds are TERFs!!!!
Hahahahahaha!
It needs to EDUCATE itself 😆
I'll get it a tiny computer that it can use to search r/egg_irl
It’s going to be so disappointed when it realizes those eggs are not the kind it thinks they are.
Hey OP next time posts like this (from a TiM or a Tif) belong over in o/TransLogic. Essentially if it’s -us- saying stuff it goes here but if it’s transcultists saying insane shit like this, it belongs over there. Thank you. Post stays up as it has generated discourse.
Makes sense, thank you.
Essentially if it’s -us- saying stuff it goes here but if it’s transcultists saying insane shit like this, it belongs over there.
oh what a handy explanation. thank you! i've been confused sometimes too, and thought this was just the catchall for funny stuff
If you ever have any questions you hit me or my mods up by modmail please!
I try to direct y’all to the most appropriate place to post (tho not everything will get through of course).
I had heard that parrots were fairly intelligent. I guess it's true!
Wow. Imagine getting triggered by a Parrot!
My aunt's parrot used to "misgender" me by calling me by my uncle's name (the bird belonged to my uncle before he died). Somehow, I survived the bird never learning my name. LOL
I instantly started laughing my ass off just at the title of their post. Now I'm just imaging them trying to educate the parrot about trans rights and calling it a bigot. hahaha They better be nice to this based bird and not mistreat it or give it away over this dumb shit.
People are saying all kinds of shit that will confuse this poor parrot :(
"This has damaged my brother's mental health." Seriously? That bird is so much more accepting than the person claiming to be "damaged." In fact...
Take a cue from the bird. The bird speaketh the truth.
Reminded me of that one I read recently: http://web.archive.org/web/20210727191122/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parrots-separated-england-zoo-cursing-swearing-at-guests/
Parrots will do their thing ^^
It was funny but it made me mad. These parrots were bonded to each other and the zoo had no moral right to separate them. Just put a notice: Warning Parrots Swear Can't Be Helped So Sorry Please Don't Teach Them New Ones.
I choose to believe that this is a sarcastic post. Otherwise, I'll get so angry thinking about what the future hold for that parrot that I'll give myself a stroke.
I can't imagine being this fragile. How does someone function like that?
I know a parrot who says “hello” when you walk away from him. The way he says “hello” to mean “goodbye” is bad for my mental health. Might’ve been what turned me into a terf.
This has damaged my brother's mental health.
These people are so fragile, it's a fucking parrot! It doesn't even know what gender identities are! I wish that was me. Edit: I hope it's a troll, this is too ridiculous to be real.
A parrot saying a name and It’s damaged the sibling’s mental health? Omfg seriously 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wait until life slaps this person upside the head. Reality bites.
This makes me angry. I hope the family doesn't abandon this parrot because of a TIF's bullshit that she'll probably outgrow.
Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay need to write a paper about transphobic birds and see who they can get to publish it.
Well, obviously what you should do is this:
Send the parrot a contrapoints video and tell him to “educate himself”. If that doesn’t work, then
Explain that you’re shaking and crying rn over the parrot’s behavior. This step is more to attract handmaidens to help with step three, which is
Start a smear campaign against the parrot. Continue to buy the parrot’s books secretly, but consider starting a kickstarter campaign to pay for getting your parrot tattoo lasered off.
Decide that laser tattoo removal hurts too much, and you’re too much of a pansy since you started estrogen (don’t worry, this means you’re a real woman now: women are well-known for not being able to tolerate pain).
Ban the parrot from reddit for “transphobia”, and call it a day.
How freaking pathetic! This is a parrot, for fucks sake.
If they must, make the parrot a terf, but the whole thing is just so innocent.
Imagine someone whose mental health is so fragile that it can damaged by a parrot. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Even sadder is that I suspect the "brother" mentioned in this post is a minor child, given that they live together.
LOL this is actually adorable and it’s pathetic that the TIF can’t handle something so innocent.
Imagine having a birdy who loves you so much he literally calls your name in joy, and that fact “damages your mental health.”
I hope these idiots don’t scold the parrot when he uses the “dead name.” That would be animal abuse in my opinion. It’s not his fault she’s jealous of his pronouns lol!
Transitioning makes them so incredibly fragile, it's no wonder suicide rates increase afterwards
If that's true, it's due underlying mental issues that don't get treated because hormones don't alleviate psychiatric illness, who would have thought?
These people are so unbelievably fragile. I don't know how they do anything in life, honestly.
As a desister myself, I can tell you from experience they DON’T do anything in life. When I was identifying as a TIF, it was all I thought about, all the time, every single day, to the detriment of my career, personal relationships, and health. It set me back so far that I’m still feeling the effects of it years later. And I didn’t even do a thing to myself physically!
Identifying as transgender needs to be recognized for what it is: a mental health crisis that needs urgent treatment.
I’m sorry you went through that. hope you’re doing better now
Much better, thanks! Nowadays I’m mostly just embarrassed as all hell about it and avoid everyone who knew about it due to the cringe lol.
Fortunately I wasn’t “out” to many people and my TIF phase lasted only a year, so it isn’t hard for me, but I can’t imagine how hard it is to desist/detrans when you go so far your whole life revolves around the identity.
Now mate, in all honesty, if you're stressing over a parrot, I'd say that your mental health was pretty much damaged from get-go.
Imagine calling a bird transphobic.
These people don’t deserve to have pets. They shouldn’t be near any animals.
Yeah, I feel sorry for this poor underappreciated bird.