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DiscussionHow many people actually believe "trans women are women"?
Idk, I'm in my 20s. I feel like a large amount of women in my age group have swallowed the koolaid so much that they're afraid to even insinuate trans "women" aka TIMs are even distinguishable from women, and some will even say things insinuating tim "superiority".
I feel like some younger (and older) women are just afraid to speak, but some really do hate other women for unknown reasons.
Personally, I never was a true believer. I did try to be, because i thought that was the right thing (i fell for media lies) but i just couldn't avoid the glaring truth despite all of the media put there declaring otherwise.
However, amongst men, due to male socialization and the fact that men generally aren't tone policed as often, there appears to be the consensus that tims are men, albeit "liberal" men will be "nicer" about it.
How many people do you feel are actual true believers so to speak, opposed to just following the status quo to avoid upset and backlash? How much of the population really believes trans people are the gender they identify as?
those things are just stereotypes that come from a long and complicated history with misogyny and backwards traditions
Yes
But now can they understand that stereotypes shouldn't force other people to pretend and give males access to female only spaces and force everyone to go along with an ideology that believes in using "men" and "non-men"
Hmmmm. Despite the T reference, I can't help wondering if grizzcat is a stealth terf trying to deprogram the brainwashed women of r/agender......
I'm not even really trying to rag on these two in particular. I just want to feel some optimism, and I think it's young women and girls like this who feel how wrong the idea of gender is. And maybe I'm projecting some, because I see myself being able to fall for some of this if I grew up completely inundated with its propaganda and believing it to be the truth. But, I broke out of religious programming and I eventually shed my teenage NLOG phase, and that's how I know it's not impossible to move forward. And it starts with these small discomforts and doubts.
"I want to be seen as just a human and not a woman" we all do! It's misogyny that makes people see us as less than human because we are women. None of us want that. And if you feel that sick feeling watching men put on a woman costume and act like what their porn addled brain thinks a woman should be, know that they don't get to decide what women really are. They are liars and charlatans. Woman is a descriptor of your body, nothing more or less. You are free to be whoever you want. Do whatever you want. Act however you want. None of that matters and none of that is relevant to "womanhood"
How can you recognize this but still embrace gender ideology?