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DiscussionSex realism vs. gender critical?
I prefer sex realism as an overarching term for how I view this madness, rather than gender critical. It's a positive term, rather than a negative ("critical") and "gender" is a made up concept anyway.
Thoughts?
Gender nullification surgery is quite possibly the most horrific thing I have ever heard about. Even worse than genital configuration surgery.
I first heard of it in the old debate sub, when the person who was talking about it said that it was initially done for gay "subs" and that it was being adapted for NBs, and it really gave me nightmares.
You'd "love" the story about the "agender" girl on reddit posting for months about having this surgery at age 19. She never seemed sure what this surgery would exactly do because sometimes shed mention they'd leave her clit and sometimes she said she'd be all smooth down there like a Barbie doll (wtaf). Then months after posting this again and again in every sub under the moon, she ostensibly had it done but said it didn't fill the emptiness in her. Well quelle fucking surprise!
As a German i see this akin to the Nazi experiments and I'll die on this hill.
Considering how these surgeries quite literally have Nazi experiments at their origin, dying right here on this hill with you.
You would be entirely right in comparing them to those experiments.
The only difference is that the victims are willing (or at least they are brainwashed into being willing), but it's equally horrifying.
I know who you're talking about, it's really sad. I go check her profile once in a while just, I don't know, to make sure she's still alive I guess?
There are always lots of "support" for her in the posts she makes, and only a few people actually pointing out how disturbing the entire thing is.
What's her username? I always got the impression she made her posts as a cry for help like someone could talk her out of it. Of course some poor traumatized kid doesn't know that reddit is run by a ring of pedophilic trans identified men who'd ban anyone who dare questions anything trans....
I don't know if it's allowed to write people's usernames here, but it starts with "useless".
That's definitely a possibility. She talks a lot about her rich dad pushing for different surgeries for her. Obviously she says he's doing a kindness but I get the vibe some part of her understands it's abusive.
Wow i did not know about those things! In a way now i hope this is the creative writing project of some incel ...
Where is the below hell level
Wake me up inside (can't wake up)
The fact that puberty blockers could potentially create 18-year-olds with the undeveloped bodies of children who pedos could legally have sex with 🥶
I think this one is very important.
Edited to add: also the entire TransLifeline fiasco, and how it so perfectly represents the broader ways this movement both contributes to and uses suicide.
The ftms and the lesbians who date tims contracting aids needs to be talked about more bc that is a damn shame..
I think it was a notable TIF from a few decades ago who wrote memoirs about how she would stealth rape gay men and then waxed poetically about how contracting HIV from this behaviour made her a true and honest man. Every day seems like a better one to not have eyes.
Tim's are just often homosexual not in here for a long time promiscuites, so they spread that shit to others like it's free. Sad
Oh, that is just...I have no words. Intentionally getting hiv to prove that you're one of the boys. Jesus.
Louis “Lou” Graydon Sullivan
“Ironically, I have been diagnosed with AIDS, still seen as a gay man’s disease … I took a certain pleasure in informing the gender clinic that even though their program told me I could not live as a gay man, it looks like I’m going to die like one.”
Also, "If Hitler was trans you'd still need to use his preferred pronouns or else you're a TERF bigot."
Like many here, I'm at the level of "need to spend less time on the internet because it gets even worse than what's shown here." Amazing the things that a combination of sexual depravity and becoming unmoored from material reality can churn out.
Yeah, I've been trying to wean myself off the internet for years. It's hard because my job requires me to be online all day, but I've still got one foot out the door, including posting less here. I'm a sensitive person. Not sure I can stand much more of this.
Feel this, hard. Think internet was kind of a mistake for the human psyche in general (she says...on the internet).
This image is great but it could use a rainbow sparkly tentacle monster down at the bottom
Posed like Goya’s Saturn eating his children.
(ETA: Goya! Not Blake!)
there’s another level further down w all the autogynephile memoirs quotes, neovagina disaster photos, ftm porn, and then there is a level under that that’s just Joe Lavery and a level under that with just Alok V Menon and there’s more levels under that that have things that i don’t want to imagine
So many medical terms i learnt because of trans butchery, such as the lively "fistula" which for TIFs can mean they defecate through their vaginas. Holy UTI what a nightmare. Also colostomy bags for life for previously healthy 20 something TIFs
Fistula is far more common in women who have given birth—I'm actually really surprised the first time you heard about it was in relation to trans issues.
This highlights how much we hide from women about childbirth. There's a chance having a baby will leave you with a colostomy bag for the rest of your life.
Holy shit. I feel kind of angry everytime I come on here and learn something about women that I should have learned in school.
I didn't know about this either. D: I also think about having kids, but I always thought of having a c-sec (I know several women who had it and they were fine).
Also, I have seem some fellow radfems talking about how women should stop getting c-secs because there's a mafia out there for placentas, and should start giving birth naturally. None of them mentions fistulas, obviously.
Sad.
Wow! I genuinely did not know that! Is that something you can avoid with a c section? I know those come with their own set of issues, but if i ever have a kid i might have to have one either way, because i will be rather old...
Yes. I used to work in home health care and we did quite a bit of fistula care and TPN (IV food) for women with fistulas- usually from Crohn's disease, but sometimes from other gynecological or intestinal issues).
such as the lively "fistula" which for TIFs can mean they defecate through their vaginas.
TIL 🤮
I am deep among those ungodly, hideous angler fish with the light-up appendages. google it.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! I know exactly what you mean. I'm there too, with the giant squid and the fish that implode if you bring them too close to the surface.
Yeah I'm at the bottom too. I'll never get over the tampon stuff. Ever. Ever ever ever.
#EVER
Is that the using tampons as teabags or suppositories? #whichisworse lol
No, a TIM posted about grabbing dirty tampons out of the trash and pretending to use them, while getting off to the woman who used them.. I hate the internet.
Whatever is like…2 levels below the one on the very bottom…yeah…that’s where I’m at
I don't know what gender nullification surgery is, and I don't know whether I want to find out 😖
You really don’t want to know. But if you did, there’s been threads here about it.
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I don' t know if NBs get the same, but when it' s "subs" doing it, it happens. They want to be completely unable to feel pleasure in order to please their "master" by taking a completely passive role in the relationship and in the bedroom.
But wait, isn't pleasing their master a form of feeling pleasure?
These people are so fucked up, why am I even trying to understand this...
I gave up on trying to understand these people. Both for their boner for superfluous surgeries and for their fixation on kinks and depraved sexual relations.
I really am unable to understand their mentality, and at this point, even if I know it's wrong, I can't even feel pity for them.
I hope I used "The Tea" correctly, lol.
Meme courtesy of Helena https://mobile.twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1503161163076366338
When I’m taking to my TRA friends and debating this stuff I’m the one in the beanie. But I’m actually at the very bottom.
Me too. I feel your pain.
I feel like if I actually spoke to them about Johnathan Yaniv, and the period fetishists, and the Challenors they would think I was completely crazy.
What is the Jazz Jennings hypnosis scene this talks about? Do I even want to know? (Guessing it was on his tv program or something?)
I'm not sure which disgusted me more, "gender nullification", or the surgeries of "NB" TiMs who kept their penises and had a hole drilled into their testicles as a "nonbinary vaginoplasty". Complete with pictures all on Reddit!
Right at the bottom. And my face looks exactly like this whenever I read some trans stuff.
Oh wow, I heard of every single layer and there are, as others have said, more layers below that.
Looks like I'm only a Level 4 TERF so far. So much room to grow!
I don't know if I should be encouraging you to go deeper or warning you to look away!
Lol this is both amazing and terrifying. I’m way down in the cold, dark depths.
Shucks, why is Yerba mate there? It’s awesome
I'm guessing to mark the top pic as a college student, default liberal and woke.
I haven't been able to figure out what "transmaxxing" means. Can anyone explain?
I don't even know what half of this is. Should I make an effort to learn about it or is ignorance bliss?
I'm halfway into the level 4th from the top and even here there are things I wish I didn't know/had never seen. So I would go cautiously if I were you.
It doesn’t go down far enough.