
Plus "jiggle physics" 🙄
yeah they do this when they can't even get natural looking hair... 🤦♀️
Oh god, yes, and the high heels... I'm currently replaying Witcher 3, and even though most women wear clothes that befit their position and cultural background, some of them still wear high heels. Ciri is an expert warrior, a total badass when it comes to fighting both with her sword and her abilities, but she does that on high heels.
What annoys me whenever the discussion about women's clothing in many games comes up: "But men are portrayed as sex objects, too, what with the bulging muscles and bare chests!" Yeah, but they still get to wear practical clothing, they get to wear pants instead of what looks like metal bathing suits, they get to wear normal shoes.
Yeah and that big muscle body is for male power fantasy. Women’s thoughts and considerations are never taken into account in any run of the mill video game.
Exactly! I'm so glad there are games out there that at least try to do things differently, like the Horizon franchise. Aloy is one of my favourite characters (I really should get back to playing Horizon Zero Dawn instead of replaying games I already know 😁), I love most female characters in Witcher 3, Cyberpunk had a few badass women as NPCs, and in the adventure genre, Grace Nakimura from the Gabriel Knight series is still a favourite, too. It is possible to include awesome women that feel real in video games. I mean, even a huge franchise like Assassin's Creed manages to pull that off most of the time.
I've actually been avoiding cyber punk because I heard that the entire world you live in is inundated with female sexualization and objectification and im so tired of it, I don't want to deal with it. Is it not that bad or are the few female characters you mentioned just exceptions?
The whole world is very sexualized, but that goes pretty much for both women and men, and it's mostly done via ads that are spread all over the city. There are also weird brothels that both women and men can enter and where they can choose from "dolls", both female and male, for their pleasure. That was pretty disturbing but then, it's a cyberpunk-themed game, and it did fit that world which is pretty fucked up to begin with. The sexualization and objectification pretty much goes both ways as it is part of that society, and I found it annoying at times because those ads were almost everywhere around the city. It did fit the overall tone, though, and the female NPCs you deal with are pretty badass, even those that are your enemies. Off the top of my head, I can't remember more than one or two that were more sexualized, one of them being a "doll" at one of the brothels and the other one, IIRC, was some kind of superstar. It's been a while since I played, though.
I thoroughly enjoyed horizon as well. It was refreshing playing a game that doesn’t add any subtle sexist things like a sexy walk or super skimpy clothing that has the best stats or whatever.
I was able to just enjoy a game without any male reinforcement telling me “this is what a woman is supposed to be” according to male expectations.
Exactly :) I haven't gotten far in the game, I think Aloy reached that outpost at the border, then Hogwarts Legacy came along and I've abandoned her for a while. I love how she doesn't take any bullshit from others and how badass she is :)
Yeah! Witcher has better clothing compared to most games but still caters to this high heel fetish which for women should be just painful to look at. Also men are not portrayed as sex objects. Being strong and powerful is the opposite of being an object.
All women who share the same "attractive" body model in the Witcher wear heels because they have Barbie feet, you can see that when Ciri takes a bath.
Oh, I gotta look out for that, I didn't notice that the first time around. Neither did I notice it with Yennefer during the first scene at the beginning. Interesting observation :)
I think I noticed it with Keira too, she was barefooted under her long skirt
I have to look out for that, too, I'm approaching that first long quest with her anyway, so I'll pay attention to that :) I'm dreading that quest, btw, because it'll have me face that first Wild Hunt boss... for me, he was the hardest of the three or four you have to deal with.
Almost every female character in Genshin Impact wears high heels. I don't play Genshin because I think its stupid, but my friend does and ugh.
Clothing for female characters in a lot of media has always been stupidly sexualized. The clothes are ridiculously impractical for no other reason than to serve as jack-off material for men. Fanboys even whine about it when female characters aren't specifically tailored to be attractive.
Recently there was some drama about a female character not being voiced seductively enough. Do men have to have a boner for the entirety of the game session?
I suppose since their lives revolve around their dick-feels they believe everything else should too.
I’m sick of my real life boobs constantly escaping from the ridiculously low cut clothing options available to me. Every time I buy a cute dress or top online, I have a 50/50 chance it will look pornographic on me. Dear lord, can we please just get things cut with a smudge more coverage? I’m so tired of pinning everything I own.
Whats worse is when the sexualized outfits distract from the story. Tales of Berseria is one of my favorite games. But it loses some appeal because the lead female character always has her boobs out in the default costume (thankfully, changing it during game play is an option. But its still there in all the cutscenes). Even though the first half of the story features her on the run from the authorities and trying not to attract attention.
The game's story tries to have a canon reason for her to dress that way. But its stupid
And the most egregious one I've seen is when Sly Cooper 4 (a talking animal game aimed at children) decided to change the costume of the female lead. They decided that the female police officer needed to be redesigned so she was wearing high heels, a mini-skirt, and a bikini top to work. 🙄
What the fuuuuuck
Yeah. Sly Cooper 4 is a horrible stain on an otherwise amazing series of games (the first 3 are wonderful and I highly recommend them)
The cop character had a sexualized shirt in the original trilogy. But at least the outfit wasn't completely hideous and she wasn't fighting crime in a mini-skirt and heels.
I stopped playing Xenoblade Chronicles because of this. I thought I'd found a non skimpy clothing option and then I saw the back and realised her ass was hanging out. There were no options that didn't have either her boobs or her ass out, while the male characters all had practical clothes.
So I’m not a video game person at all. I never owned any growing up and I don’t now. Of course my ex, who was also an abusive porn and sex addict, was really into them. (That’s not to say anything about women who play games, but that the majority of male “gamers” are also porn addicts).
He really wanted me to play the games that he loved. So he found an old PlayStation and I tried some out.
I did have fun doing the first Prince of Persia; he knew I really liked the movie and actually I didn’t know it was from a video game. That game would have come out in 2003 from what I’m seeing? Then he said, you have to play the second one! It’s even better! I couldn’t make it past the first day I started, once I saw the disgusting pornified female character. I instantly knew why he thought it was “better”. It made me want to vomit. Additionally, if I remember correctly, it felt like the prince character had turned into a massive jerk. He looks more like a scary creep on the cover of the second one. And that came out in 2004.
Ex was pissed that I insulted his games by calling this out and refusing to play it anymore.
All this to say it was obviously always headed in this direction. Those games were for kids and teens, despite any age rating. There weren’t nearly as many adult video game players then as there are now. They knew exactly what they were doing, and I’m sure it made them millions.
And the kids who played those in the early 2000s, are the adult gamers playing the new games now, and the current game developers. So I’m sadly not surprised that you can’t find any new games that don’t pornify all the female characters. And I won’t be surprised if the majority of games 10 years from now go the route of The Witcher and CyberPunk, to the point where any game without nudity and porn will be rare.
Games indeed get worse, not better. I've been playing titles ranging from pre-2000s to now and it's obvious. While games used to have some mild old school sexism, which was sometimes even mocked by the devs themselves, now it's full on pornification that you have to see as something great and empowering or else.
Soul Calibur 3 had jiggle physics on both men and women.
At least it was equal with its silliness.
My main game is actually getting a bit better. It's old, and they are adding heroes on a regular basis, sometimes redoing old ones. There used to be a very skewed male:female hero ratio, and the female heroes were kind of standard video-game porny looking. But they are gradually adding more female heroes, and much more normal and diverse. They've added a cool grandmother and an armoured non-porny woman, among others, and redoing some older heroes to be less jiggly and porny and looking more normal. They even added a skin to one old one with the jiggle boobs, turning her into a wolf with an old-woman voice. Love it!
Ugh the steel plate armor for Skyrim that has molded breast cups that look absolutely awful. Plus the fact that all the female npcs and main character walks like they are wearing high heels.
Everything is always catered to male gaze.
I'm a big Destiny 2 player, and I like the fact that while the female characters are obviously female, they don't have boob-armor, they don't run in a stereotypically "girly" way just in a female way, and they're as solid and believable as the protagonist as any male character is. I actually haven't taken my helmet off in like 3 years, so I don't even know what I look like under there any more.
I started to play Dragon's Dogma because I heard from a few sources it should be so good and I do like it but I was taken aback by the mentioned super sexy sex appeal with female characters... boob armor but what's even worse for me the MAKE UP!!! They look so dolled up like full face and no skin texture with the only exception being the very old grandma's. I just shake my head everything and try to ignore it but it also takes me out of the world as a whole because it makes no sense that a WARRIOR women looks like that.
I'm playing it now too. Yes Mercedes' design is "sexy" and her story is like a lesson for women who forget their place. What's especially ridiculous is that the game is historically accurate with the armor and clothing unless it's a significant female npc.
There also seems to be so much more lesbian “romance” options in games these days (way more than gay ones), and I’m convinced it’s for male titillation not actual lesbian players.
Oh absolutely. Most times that I've seen "lesbian representation", it's 100% fetishizing the entire thing and is always extremely male gazey.
The lesbian "romances" are 100% written by men for men's boners. It's the equivalent of fujoshi yaoi fanfic, but companies can claim it for woke points. I hate it so much. (Notice how the lesbians are always high femme and conventionally attractive, no butches unless you count some blue-haired NLOG Enby).
Absolutely! The one "butch" lesbian I've come across so far in Valhalla has joined my crew because she was rejected by the woman she loved.
So far my character has had several approaches from women (all beautiful) and only one from a man (ugly as sin).
Yeah I don't find "lesbian" options attractive because they look straight. I think it's a way to virtue signal without changing or risking anything
And the straight male options are rarely if ever attractive. I think they don't want to unease "straight" identifying male players by presenting something that might actually be attractive to them.
Dragon Age is a rare exception there, with Alistair and Cullen. And I saw a video of a BDSM gay relationship in that game which was incredibly detailed and well progressed and scripted.
Elder Scrolls (thankfully) clearly doesn't seem to care about it one way or the other. I'm hoping it won't be too much of a thing in Starfield either.
Options for straight women look like Just Some Fucking Guy. Yeah we had this romance experiment and it was a failure, can we return to it not existing? Obviously creating characters that appeal to X demographic takes more than the minds of several straight dudes but also they would never do a truly risky choice of asking women for their opinion and following through with it