The reason that I don’t want to be with a TIM is because they are male. The reason that I don’t want to be with a TIF is that I find the self-hatred unattractive.
But aside from these reasons, what is wrong with not wanting to date someone because they are ‘trans’? How is it any different to dating someone with wildly different religious or political views? I was just thinking today about how many ‘left wing’ activists would probably never want to date a fundamentalist Christian or a conservative, so what makes transgenderism special in this regard?
Edit: I think where my thoughts are going with this is that heterosexual people in particular, who can be afford to be choosy about who they date, often seem to see lesbians as a dumping ground for ‘unwanted men’. I think it echoes that comment from heterosexual men that lesbians are only homosexual because we are ‘too ugly to get a man’ and not because we are only attracted to women. So perhaps they think that we are being ‘ungrateful’ for rejecting TIMs on some level, ignoring the fact that lesbians are badgered just as much, if not more, than other women, precisely because men see us as a ‘challenge’.
Democrats will have to realize it's not just about sports, it's about women's right to have something of our own - something that men can't have. We must keep pushing until we have all our rights and spaces back.
Refer to this website for every single "but it's not even That Many" moronic imbecile claim
It includes a list of every RECORDED male in every documented women's sport by name and sport. As well as showing women have already lost 401 first place, 373 second place, and 362 third place positions in these sports. There are currently 352 documented males in 62 different women's sports categories or teams. And again, this is only recorded sports. Not counting elementary and high schools or all local/community teams and etc. Is that enough yet? Is this still "not that many"? So How many women and at what number can are we allowed to say no more? One was too many. One male allowed immediately takes that away from one actual woman.
Yes that is the play book. Well we should say, the trans population is so low, why did we change laws at the cost of women who make up majority of the world. We need to stand firm on it. Every democrat who voted against the bill to protect women needs to be voiced out. Is it okay if just one girl loses out on a scholarship? Is it okay if just one woman is raped? It’s not
This drives me crazy. If one male cheats in something, it is a huge scandal. Danny Almonte was just one player, but he was too old for little league and caused a huge upset in the finals tournaments for their world series bc it was against the rules. They don't say, oh, let it go, there's only a couple guys here or there over the age limit. They make national news out of it and throw people out of the sport and bemoan the lost chances of the kids who didn't get a fair game. And players like Mark McGwire or Barry Bonds who were found to be on steroids were similarly stripped of records, not shrugged off as no big deal.
And if it's no big deal politically, then just take care of it simply and be done with it! It should be easy since it's such a non-issue. It won't bother anyone to ban any male-bodied people who want to take part in women's sports since they're practically non-existent anyway, right? Why not agree with the logical, common sense imperative that will apparently barely impact any athletes, and get back to what you consider important. Why are you defending it if it doesn't matter?
I don’t care if there’s one or a thousand. Female sports exist for fairness of competition for females. Why make exceptions for ANY MALE?
Why are any of these males more important than all the females that it suddenly A-OK to break the rules for? When there’s any issue with rules and fairness in MALE sport, things get immediately sorted. This past college football season one team intentionally broke a rule because it would mean the clock would start and by the rules, it would run out and the other team wouldn’t be able to score a winning field goal at the end of the game. Before the next weekend, the NCAA changed the rules so that type of clock management couldn’t happen again.
But it’s suddenly no big to allow any number of males to break the most important rule of the closed female class — must be a female.
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
Narcissist's Prayer
My senator has said nothing about trans, like ever. She shows up to Pride and takes photos w/ gay men and promotes lesbian business. She, however, votes in lockstep w/ Dems, so her record is horseshit, however, I think her lack of pronouns in her bio, and her absolutely ignoring the issue of trans, including the men in women's sports, means she is just waiting for the wind to blow and she'll follow it. She's also a moderate.
wow sounds exactly like my senator! it’s seriously so embarrassing to have voted for people who took this stance 🙃
So far I've only heard a couple of politicians apologize and admit to getting it wrong, but most have followed the Jon Tester route. You inspired me to do a poll on the subject. I hope you don't mind me doing so off the back of your post.
My nephew went to Penn when the Lia Thomas scandal was going on. He knew Paula Scanlan personally. And what he said to me is that while having Lia compete was unfair, it was collateral damage to the greater right of trans acceptance.
it was collateral damage to the greater right of trans acceptance.
And look how well that's working out.
They can continue the gaslighting, but Dem voters have to keep the pressure on. So they relent on another piece of the trans agenda. I guess you could call it fighting tooth and nail...or fighting breast and testicle, one by one, to victory of reality, science, and compassion, and honesty about degree of homophobia still out there.
Newsom goes gender critical and the only person he can think to do it with is Charlie Kirk?
Back up, Gavin. Come over here.
This is what Jon Tester said in that clip from the Bill Maher show:
What a dickhead. He's just admitted that female athletes who compete in girls and women's sports in the USA and those who support them aren't Americans in his eyes.
As for Tester blustering on about how men competing in women's sports has never happened in Montana, and could never happen there, he's just showing he hasn't been paying any attention to what's already happened in Montana.
If Tester had a clue, he'd know full well that back in 2019-2020, Jonathan Eastwood - a 22-year-old male University of Montana student who had been the boys' state track and cross-country champion in multiple events when he was in high school - made national headlines and kicked up quite a storm when he changed his name to June and began running and winning big in NCAA women's track. In his first three years as on the men's track and cross-country teams at the University of Montana, Jonathan Eastwood didn't live up to the promise he'd shown in high school - in fact, he didn't fare all that well when competing against other men in collge events. After getting sidelined with an injury his junior year in college, Eastwood got depressed and almost gave up the sport altogether. But once Eastwood decided to deal with his injury and dispirited state by settling on "transition" as the solution, Eastwood got a new lease on life and rekindled his enthusiasm for running when he joined the Montana women's team and began easily trouncing female competitors.
This video from February 29, 2020 shows Eastwood leaving female runners in the dust as he easily won the women's mile race at Big Sky Conference Indoor Championships by wide margin:
https://youtu.be/rpHyJgORPXg?si=aJ2SCvdwlT0LnC0U
More on Jonathan "June" Eastwood of Montana from press reports, with the pronouns changed and a few other edits added:
https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a28875180/june-eastwood-first-transgender-runner-di-cross-country/
https://www.thecollegefix.com/big-sky-conference-names-male-runner-female-athlete-of-the-week-leaves-out-hes-transgender/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7616487/Transgender-female-NCAA-cross-country-runner-Montana-named-Conference-Female-Athlete-Week.html#:~:text=June Eastwood%2C a University of,group of 204 female runners.
You always bring the receipts. I watched his haw haw ing about this never happening asterisk in Montana and thought, bet that's still bullshit.