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redfem-radpillSeptember 29, 2024(Edited September 29, 2024)

I think part of the reason they're crowing about it in this way is partly to emphasize that this vaccine in general is a good thing -- I remember being stunned about the degree, and irrationality, of the hostility to it when it first came out. It took years to get it made routine, and it felt like all the objections (which were passionated) wholly ignored the issue of lots of terrible and painful deaths of female people. As if the objectors were more concerned about something else. So they're probably still trying to kind of beat that back. It's more public communication about science than it is scientific communication. That's my guess, anyway. But thank you for all the great data on it!

[Edit: "You're saying our daughters are sluts and our sons are gay!!! We're coming for you!" was a lot of the tone, lol kind of]

LillithSeptember 29, 2024(Edited September 29, 2024)

I actually had a doctor discourage me from getting it. She said it was moslty for ppl with certain lifestyles.

redfem-radpillOctober 19, 2024

Right. There were very conservative parents who had to have it explained to them that there is such a thing as sexual assault.

somegenerichandleSeptember 29, 2024(Edited September 29, 2024)

Wow. I mean it's something stupid like 80% of people over a certain age have some form of hpv or another. i know i found out right after i turned 17, but many people don't have any symptoms. When i was in my early 20s a friend had to have her cervix removed and just last year a long time family friend died of it, and one of my aunts back in 2007-ish. She was the second wife who died from it that married my uncle. But i get it, i was arguing with some women i knew they were all, "my daughter isn't having sex," little do they know it's transmittable orally.

LillithSeptember 29, 2024

Wow. I am so sorry all of that happened. This stuff is not a joke. And the anti vax sentiment that many Americans have is concerning.

somegenerichandleSeptember 29, 2024(Edited September 29, 2024)

They feel their bodily autonomy is at stake. I do feel there should be more choices, like vax without stabilizers -- that increase the shelf life. Or allow people to submit to a titer test. If they have the antibodies, they should have to have a shot. And remember healthcare is privatized, so at the end of the day, this means additional spending to many struggling families.

And thanks. I did pick up another strain of it in my mid 30s. A lot of people would say that's 'proof' that it doesn't work. But i paid attention and knew that going in it didn't cover every strain. A GP did tell me the visual ones are less likely to cause cancer, but i have no idea if that is true.

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