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Is anyone here interested in hosting an Ovarit clone made with the same Throat software that powers Ovarit? : https://gitlab.com/feminist-conspiracy/throat
It would look just like Ovarit!
Grandma can help us make an Ovarit clone if someone is interested in hosting it! :)
Here is an example of another site powered by the same software that powers Ovarit... : https://phuks.co/
More info on the Ovarit software : https://ovarit.com/o/Ovarit/159688/ovarit-runs-on-open-source-software-interested-in-contributing
I think it would be helpful to look into how others have done this successfully. What are some comparable forums that face similar potential legal and political hurdles? What is their legal structure (LLC? Non-profit organization?), what people do they have involved, and what are their skills? How are these people invested and what is the process for stepping down/replacing tired horses?
I am not aware of any site like this that has been done successfully. The only slightly comparable ones are like…kiwi farms, saidit, and they are shitholes run by men.
Keeping us deprived of time and money is not just a symptom but also an aim of how women are oppressed worldwide. That makes it almost impossible for us to succeed on very large and demanding projects like this. Some women manage to succeed if there is male support for what they are doing—this is why we see so many prominent Republican women and some successful businesswomen.
For a truly feminist project, there is only male (and a decent amount of female) opposition. What support there is is from a minority of a notoriously economically and temporally deprived demographic.
And the onslaught is often brutal. I highly recommend listening to the FDS podcast about why they stopped moderating the subreddit. Reddit didn’t have to take it down because the harassment was so extreme and demoralizing that eventually the admins couldn’t keep up.
I think the future may not be a public website. I think it may be private Facebook groups, some occasional subreddits, the comments of a Substack, but I’m hoping that the site closing may be the push for some of us to begin meeting in person. There is perhaps even more danger there, but I think also the potential for more impactful action, and the harassment will be more visible for normies to see and notice because it will be physical and in person.
Meeting in person is dangerous for those of us in countries where women are not permitted to exclude men from anywhere except our own homes, eg Australia.
And tbh I don't want to attend in-person meetings. Internet reading and snark is more my style.
I so badly want to connect with rad feminist women where I live but every single time I test the waters it's a solid no. There's no one! It is so pathetic and demoralizing I almost can't stand it. No, there will not be more in person action in my life, just an empty space where all of you on ovarit were.
I’ve met like 2 rad women in person (actually one of them I haven’t managed to meet in person yet but I probably will) and for various reasons it has gone pretty much nowhere. It’s not even about action but about sanity irl. I can’t imagine meeting enough rad women irl that we could somehow organize. Usually that seems to involve traveling across the country for something like a WDI conference.
That's absolutely it, a lot of these orgs and non profits get money because men run them or they heavily censor themselves. Women would never get support without changing absolutely everything to not piss of men,and what would be the point then. That's why it's hard to succeed, any effort will not see support and is usually is in opposition to the status quo, you don't just do unpaid work, but have to defend yourself against nutcases.
All this is so intentional, it's sickening how they've kept us from grouping together without them in the online sphere. It really shows how little power we have sometimes, how easy it is for them to push us out and close us in.
Good points all, proudcatlady. I've been thinking of posting to invite Ovarettes from my region to join an fb group I set up for the purpose, but have been hesitating because I want to be sure I have thought it all through well enough.
It will always depress me how badly women want men's love and approval and how ready many are to throw their sisters under the bus for a false promise they'll get it.