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carbon0vaJanuary 20, 2025

Unfortunately when men say this, they don't mean they see women as a class worth rallying to. They mean whatever definition of class will benefit their personal goals, and expect women to work and sacrifice towards that agenda instead.

The history of social movements is full of men telling women, 'sure honey, we'll deal with that little problem for you, right after we get this way more important thing that benefits us'. Our turn never comes until we choose to collectively center ourselves.

proudcatladymad because angryJanuary 20, 2025

Exactly. To men, the class wars mean the men who can afford to keep a private woman (or pay to use a public woman) vs the men who can’t. They want to redistribute resources, including women, among themselves because they feel they aren’t getting enough. We’re not going to get shit from a man’s class war.

TheChaliceIsMightierJK 4evaJanuary 20, 2025

Exactly, they see women as resources, not citizens.

GrimeldaSJanuary 20, 2025

When I was a student I joined a socialist organisation and I have to say none of those blokes genuinely gave a shit about women. I gave a talk about male violence and the group leader's only comment was (paraphrasing) 'I just want to clarify that we don't support tossing people in jail. Come the revolution there will be no need for violence.'

carbon0vaJanuary 21, 2025

Come the revolution there will be no need for violence.

"come the revolution" 🙄

Did you ask him why he thought there was a 'need' for male violence against women now?

proudcatladymad because angryJanuary 21, 2025(Edited January 21, 2025)

Probably because of inequitable distribution of women. Men need to make sure “their” women stay in line and feel they must dominate over women to prove their place in the male hierarchy. But once women are evenly distributed among men, men won’t need to be anxious about losing “their” women, and once the male class hierarchy is dismantled, men won’t have as much to prove.

It’s all about them and their feelings.

GenderHereticJanuary 21, 2025

Come the revolution there will be no need for violence.

These types never think about what a revolution even is.

CattitudeJanuary 20, 2025

Oh yes, because violence disappeared from the Soviet Union. What an idiot.

SmellerbeeJanuary 22, 2025

"The revolution only extends to the ends of their dicks."