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This! Part of the reason the TIF Mack Beggs was kept off her high school boys wrestling team was because the boys didn't want to wrestle with a female opponent (even if she was roided out on testosterone). So she got to compete with girls while on performance enhancing drugs. And wanted to compete in a very close-contact sport with boys while remaining on her performance enhancing drug.
To nobody's surprise, when she got her wish in college, she was quickly benched and quietly quit the team not long after
Whilst it might well be the case that boys at Mack Beck's HS and in Texas HS wrestling generally didn't want to wrestle with or against female opponents at the time Mack Beggs was competing in HS wrestling, I don't think the boys themselves ever had much say in the matter. The Texas school school officials who serve on the University Interscholastic League, the governing body that makes the rules for HS sports in Texas, are the ones who made the decision that Mack Beggs had to compete in the division of high school wrestling that Texas had created expressly for members of her sex.
Texas was actually on the cutting-edge and way out ahead of most other states when it started an offiicially-sanctioned high school wrestling program for girls on par with the high school wrestling it offered for boys back in 1999. Texas was only the second state in the US to do this. Hawaii started offering wrestling for HS girls on par with boys one year earlier, in 1998.
At the time Mack Beggs was wrestling in HS, only six states in the USA altogether had separate full-fledged, officially sanctioned wrestling programs for high school girls.
https://nwhof.org/news/high-school-girls-wrestling-continues-rapid-growth
My understanding is that ever since Texas began a separate full-fledged wrestling program for high school girls back in 1999, the rule in the Lone Star state was always that:
(g) Boys may not wrestle against girls, and vice versa. This prohibition is only applicable when the contest is held in Texas or in any other state that sponsors wrestling programs for both boys and girls
https://www.uiltexas.org/policy/constitution/general/nondiscrimination
The only issue that was unclear when Beggs started HS wrestling was exactly what criteria schools should use to determine which students are on the boys' teams, and which are on the girl's teams. In 2016, Texas decided to base it on the sex stated on students' birth cerificates.
BTW, in the states without separate HS wrestling for girls, it's typically been the case that girls were/are allowed to try out for boys' teams and they've wrestled boys in interscholastic meets if they made the team.
But today, most high school girls in the US don't have to go out for boys' teams any more because a total of 46 states now offer separate, full-fledged officially-sanctioned wrestling programs for high school girls. 40 of these programs have been started since 2018; 27 of them have been added just since 2020.
https://wrestlelikeagirl.org/hsseau
More on the Texas rules back when Mack Beggs was in HS wrestling:
https://www.tpr.org/community/2016-03-03/the-source-new-rule-doesnt-recognize-transgender-teens
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2016/05/30/154564/controversial-rule-to-exclude-transgender-athletes-in-texas-public-schools/
https://www.uiltexas.org/press-releases/detail/uil-statement-regarding-2017-wrestling-state-tournament
I appreciate the extra info!
Yeah, I figured the boys had no say in the Beggs case either way. But I would imagine some of them would feel weird about it.
IMO, the fact that Beggs was on copious doses of testosterone should have disqualified her from playing on either team. If a real boy can't compete while injecting testosterone, Beggs (who fancies herself a real boy) should not have been allowed to do so
The UIL gave Beggs a therapeutic use exemption for exogenous testosterone. IIRC, when the UIL gave Beggs the TUE, they used the reference range for normal testsoterone levels in male teenagers as the appropriate therapeutic target for Beggs as well.
The attorney father of one of the HS girls Beggs wrestled against and beat sued the UIL on the grounds that granting Beggs a TUE allowing her to get roided up on massive amounts exogenous testosterone whilst at the same time permitting her compete in girls' HS wrestling was unfair and illegal. But the courts either dismissed the suits or decided in favor of the UIL.
Beggs was named as a defendant in the lawsuit too.
https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/cincinnati/news/2017/03/5/transgender-wrestler-opens-up-about-testosterone-usage-at-texas-tournament-
April 11 2017
https://www.usatodayhss.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/04/11/mack-beggs-transgender-wrestling-case-headed-for-judicial-and-legislative-hearing-at-same-time/76917661007/
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/judge-dismisses-lawsuit-against-uil-that-sought-to-ban-transgender-wrestler-from-competing/18429/