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DiscussionMisogyny coming from intelectuals: women at fault for women's problems
Found this blog in the medicine subreddit. Unfortunately the guy talks waaay more about his sociological insights, plenty of them about women, than psychiatry.
I think this might be worthy to discuss so we can break down his points. Some of his quotes:
"if some field keeps the trappings of power but loses actual power, women enter it in droves and men abandon it like the Roanoke Colony."
"I know, I know, women get paid less then men. Sigh. There are a million reasons for this, but the most important is the simplest: some people want to get more money from the job, and some other people want the job to offer them more money, and they are not the same people"
"We need more women in power." Wrong preposition, dummy, but anyway you have them. You have judges and prosecutors and twenty female senators, what has it gotten you? Your own ground floor women don't protect each other, you know who had to come to this teen's aid? Anonymous. Men."
"And if the girls did nothing, it means they were taught to do nothing, and the people most responsible for that lesson was other women."
I found this is the prototype of misogyny by intellectual men that do have some grasp on how capitalism works and how liberal feminism is a product, that knows of socialization and recognizes that men dominate the world/women and still have nothing positive to say about feminism or women because it is threatening to him, as a man.
So of course, he blames women. Women are the ones teaching women how to behave, how to be a victim, how to be less then men. This is truth at some extend, because patriarchy is also supported by women, but we in no shape or form benefiting from it. He compares women to black slaves and asks why they do not rise up, knows it is because of the "system", but I think he missed the obvious threat of violence common to both.
It all comes down to men beating us into submission, from centuries, both physically and mentally. He has no idea what is the psychological terror of being raped or even the threat of being physically weaker than 50% of the population. The problem he presents isn't why men are violent, but "why women don't fight back." The problem of rape isn't a men's problem of being violent, but a women problem of not cooperating to stop it.
Of course he picked a specific example of women being potentially able to help another woman, but choose not to. Most rapes however do not happen in such setting, but inside homes, with a relative/familiar adult to a girl. He also conveniently ignores how much women have done for women, to fight against rape, to ask for better salaries, etc
Everything women conquer to this type of men has no merit. Not because the system is so powerful as he seems to imply, but because he hates women. He refuse to see anything good that we may have accomplished, presenting everything we conquer as given to us by men to further manipulate us, or empty victories..
I find this kind of thinking is the norm in the intellectual misogyny bubble.
Thoughts?
It’s not because they are trans, no one cares about that, it’s simply that they are not the sex they are attracted to
As long as it's women doing the choosing, people will have a problem with it. No matter what the choice or the topic is, the hate is for women alone and everything else is just an excuse to act on it.
This. I'm Asian, some white men hate us when we only date Asians, some Asian men hate us when we date any white person.
I say we fuck whomever we want and those who have a problem can kindly eat shit.
Whoever polices anybody's any dating preference is automatically categorized as "a babbling shit-eating idiot" in my mind oh have I mentioned I don't date any religious person?
Men don't like no for answer from women ever. What they fail to realize is we can and do say it. I'm at the point where I don't care what name someone calls me I'm still not going to have sex with anyone I don't want to. So many of my liberal, straight women friends supports these TIMs. As women shouldn't we all be on the same side that consent is absolute king when it comes to sex? Why is it only king on the their side? Mind blowing that most of these people have forgotten what an actual bigot is. BTW love the meme! Nice job.
But people do whine endlessly about women not dating shorties. We are so shallow for not dating something they can't help. Meanwhile women can just lose weight/style their hair/do makeup/get plastic surgery amiright. So they will turn around and admit to having dating preferences of their own. Funny how that works.
Honestly i had a few other versions of the meme where it said ''smells bad'' and ''has buck teeth'' but i just landed on height instead.
This is a little bit of a side bar but it’s crazy how it’s so prevalent in female socialization that we shouldn’t dare refuse a guy because he’s short. I remember in an episode of Lizzie McGuire, a show for preteen girls, a girl named Parker was vilified for now wanting to date Gordo because he’s short. Miranda called her a witch, Lizzie acted like she owed Gordo an explanation, and at the end, she was on the receiving end of the typical media punishment for the women and girls that say no. She ended up having a bad date with the most popular guy on the show and essentially went crawling back to Gordo. It was an awful message omg
Lol there are so many men on Reddit who constantly moan and whine about how no one wants to date them because they're too short.
I don't think it really matters why a woman won't date a man. We are always hated, threatened with violence, and insulted if we say anything but "yes."
I have refused dates with short men, not because they were short, but because they had obvious hang ups and insecurities about it and acted like assholes towards other people.
But if you point that out on reddit you get downvoted to hell lmao
Exactly. There’s just as much whining about how “women will date any loser as long as he’s TALL” as about “your dating preferences are transphobic”. It’s just coming from different directions.
Given the incel-to-trans pipeline, it's probably actually coming from the same direction, just different years.
Oh my god, that is sure as hell true. Honestly, I never understood women who wouldn't date a guy shorter than themselves. Maybe this is because as my brief stint as a heterosexual, I did date guys shorter than me. Probably because I'm so freaking tall. But it wasn't an issue for me.
But throw in a criteria like, you don't want your girlfriend to have a penis, everybody does lose their minds! And you will probably find yourself doxxed and losing your career if you express such an opinion.
The only reason women rejecting "trans" is a big deal is because it means that heterosexual (almost always white) men who say they are "lesbian" won't get the only sexual gratification they want, from having their fantasy indulged. Think about how enraged, unstable, and savagely violent men get when they can't get their way about anything they feel entitled to. When the thing they feel entitled to is living out their sex fantasy - and that is their entire existence, the reason they "trans" - magnify that rage X1000. The fact that it is women resisting male violation - and "getting away with it" (which is how it comes across when you feel you are being denied what you should have) is all the more enraging for these guys. That is why these men consider it such a huge deal.
No one rejects them because they are "trans". Lesbians reject them because they are men. Most bihets reject them because they are terminally narcissistic and incapable of any actual intimacy in a relationship between equals.
100% agree.
I really like the way you explained this.