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This girl posted on relationship advice basically saying her boyfriend's repeated past use of sex workers worries her about the way he must see women.. (Name: I found out that before we met my boyfriend has slept with several paid women/sex workers.)

This post goes VIRAL and its full of "ex sex workers" and men telling her how shes a shamer and how its totally normal and his repeated use is "just because he doesn't want to wank for the 500th time" (because women are masturbation alternatives? really)

Look at some of these responses:

Ex sex worker here. Someone who gets repeats is someone who didnt end up on our blacklist usually. If he is kind, it means he understands it was a service and nothing more. Ive had tons of clients (majority actually) like this. The majority of regulars were just normal dudes who didnt want to wank for the 500th time in a row.

I also wanted to add that I think the fact he was honest with her about his past honestly speaks a lot to his character and attitude of openness and honesty in a relationship, which is all great foundational evidence that he's likely not a shitty dude.

Yep. So many men carry so much shame around sexuality that they’ll lie and keep secrets, even about how often they use porn. His honesty could be an indicator that he’s emotionally healthier than the average guy out there. It could be a red flag, but only if there are other red flags surrounding the issue. If he has no red flags aside from this topic, I’d take it as a positive sign that he’s honest and transparent.

Former escort and pro domme here... Sex work is real work and isn't in any way immoral or "wrong". Having been a client of one sex worker or 100 does not mean he will cheat or doesn't respect women. Also, for what it's worth, any SW with any level of professionalism gets tested regularly, practices safe sex and treats it like any other job.

I'd rather my bf pay for sex than be dishonest with women when he really just wants sex. (yes I know women do this too).

My friend/roommate paid for sex, a lot. We'd go out to a bar or club, he'd disappear and we'd find him hours later at our apartment with one, sometimes two sex workers. He then met this girl (not a sex worker), married her and never looked back. It's been more than a decade since. They have children now. I know for a fact that he's loyal and hasn't paid for sex since he met his now wife.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH

This girl posted on relationship advice basically saying her boyfriend's repeated past use of sex workers worries her about the way he must see women.. (Name: I found out that before we met my boyfriend has slept with several paid women/sex workers.) This post goes VIRAL and its full of "ex sex workers" and men telling her how shes a shamer and how its totally normal and his repeated use is "just because he doesn't want to wank for the 500th time" (because women are masturbation alternatives? really) Look at some of these responses: Ex sex worker here. Someone who gets repeats is someone who didnt end up on our blacklist usually. If he is kind, it means he understands it was a service and nothing more. Ive had tons of clients (majority actually) like this. The majority of regulars were just normal dudes who didnt want to wank for the 500th time in a row. I also wanted to add that I think the fact he was honest with her about his past honestly speaks a lot to his character and attitude of openness and honesty in a relationship, which is all great foundational evidence that he's likely not a shitty dude. Yep. So many men carry so much shame around sexuality that they’ll lie and keep secrets, even about how often they use porn. His honesty could be an indicator that he’s emotionally healthier than the average guy out there. It could be a red flag, but only if there are other red flags surrounding the issue. If he has no red flags aside from this topic, I’d take it as a positive sign that he’s honest and transparent. Former escort and pro domme here... Sex work is real work and isn't in any way immoral or "wrong". Having been a client of one sex worker or 100 does not mean he will cheat or doesn't respect women. Also, for what it's worth, any SW with any level of professionalism gets tested regularly, practices safe sex and treats it like any other job. I'd rather my bf pay for sex than be dishonest with women when he really just wants sex. (yes I know women do this too). My friend/roommate paid for sex, a lot. We'd go out to a bar or club, he'd disappear and we'd find him hours later at our apartment with one, sometimes two sex workers. He then met this girl (not a sex worker), married her and never looked back. It's been more than a decade since. They have children now. I know for a fact that he's loyal and hasn't paid for sex since he met his now wife. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I feel the same. I am a former prostitute; there is no sex buyer in the world who I'd trust. The very act of paying for sex makes you a bad person. I know this from experience and I will say it to anybody who'll listen or not till the day I die. Fuck these traitors. They're not my sisters.

Same here. But we're not the "sex workers" they want to hear from I guess 😒

I kind of notice that there's this weird similarity to how detransitioners are treated by TRAs. Cult mentality. We're "suppressive persons". We're Debbie Downers. We're out to ruin everyone's good progressive time with lies and fear mongering. Above all, we are dangerous. Walking talking proof that the cheap, tatty, delusional fantasy these groups are hawking is just that.

I kind of notice that there's this weird similarity to how detransitioners are treated by TRAs.

This is a good point. Just like detransitioners, ex sex workers who had bad experiences are treated as outliers and/or told their abuse was their own fault.

[–] Zola 20 points

the worst thing is how prostitution presents a serious threat towards women who have nothing to do with the trade. What i went through falls into the definition of human trafficking (but it wasn't sex work). girls get kidnapped all the time. Sex work is a real danger to minors, because recruiters will go on great lengths to kidnap or take advantage of young women and girls. I wish we lived in a world that didn't have such a dismissive attitude of women's safety.

[–] Fluffy_gender 16 points Edited

Fuck these traitors. They're not my sisters.

They may not even be women, or they might be current escorts/pimps using reddit to get clients. I wouldn't trust anonymous posters from reddit on "former sex workers" praising their clients

Shit! Fucking psyop shit! I didn't even think of this. You could be totally right. I absolutely hate that I'm aware of the existence of sex buyer subs on Reddit. It makes my mind palace more unpleasant than it needs to be.

So many men carry so much shame around sexuality

LOL. No, they don't. Not anymore, since everything is getting normalized these days.

Bring back shame!

Men have never been shamed sexually. They get to shag around and be seen as a top bloke. They get to cheat and abuse women. They get to have affairs. They even get to rape.

If men were actually shamed for their sexual behaviour, things might be a lot better!

Nearly everything is catered towards men's sexuality, from games to TV shows to movies to ads. Everything.

Men carry too little shame and openly talk about beating it to porn as if that's not pathetic

Yeah, I couldn't imagine what planet this person is living on if they think men carry shame about sexuality. Like do they literally have worms in their brain?? I can't fucking escape men's disgusting sexuality anywhere!! Shame my fucking ass.

The men tell her they have shame, and she's an idiot and believes them.

She'll learn.

Reddit is the worst possible place to get advice about that kind of stuff. The relationship advice subs are all extremely anti woman. This is just one example. Man doesn't want a woman because she used to be a sex worker or even just has many previous partners? Perfectly fine. He's allowed to have his preference. She is disgusting and used up and he deserves someone better.

But then a woman doesn't want a man who has repeatedly used sex workers? Or even worse doesn't want a man who watches porn and is obsessed with violent kink? She is just a controlling, crazy, insecure prude and clearly he deserves someone better.

[–] [Deleted] 33 points Edited

I feel like people forget that reddit was home to r/redpill and it was one of their most popular subs.

The MRAs didn't leave when it supposedly become a progressive haven. It's just that "progressives" have become so unashamed in their hatred of women that they fit in now, lol.

[–] Ruby 21 points

They subbed in TIMs for women and now all MRAs can claim to be feminists while kicking women in the teeth. A great victory for men!

[–] scriptcrone 30 points Edited

We have to keep reminding women to ask the key question: "Is this acceptable to me?"

It doesn't matter if the majority approves, if it's declared to be normal, if it's declared to be fun, if you're said to be *phobic or *ist if you don't want to. A woman's body is not a progressive democracy. If it's not acceptable to her, then she really, truly, can leave, and nobody else needs to have a say.

Fifty-plus years after second wave feminism and young women seem to be even more convinced that their relationship decisions have to go before the Court of Public Opinion for Approval.

[–] Ruby 32 points

Also, for what it's worth, any SW with any level of professionalism gets tested and regularly, practices safe sex

What ! LOL.

the STD rates for prostituted women is 5 to 60 times greater than the average population

STDs may take weeks to show up on a test

prostituted women may have anywhere from 5 to 10 or more clients per day

johns demand condomless sex, including oral which can spread herpes.

There is no way to know what he is doing with a women he bought to rape. No way to know if he used condoms or whether he brutalized the women he bought. And no references to ask either, so he's obviously going to downplay his risk and role.

But I suspect this woman already knows he's a misogynist since she's specifically worried about how he sees women.

Just reading the SexWorkers subreddit, it’s not at all uncommon to read a post about some nasty client “stealthing” and basically raping the woman with no condom after they already agreed to using protection.

Men do that to women they have actual chemistry with, they do it to serious girlfriends even, why wouldn't they do it even more to women that, in their eyes, "don't even matter"?

You can actually still get herpes even if you use a condom, it just reduces the risk.

Correct because you don't catch it from the semen, you get it off their skin. And herpes can infect anywhere on your body. They're not even sure anymore that it's accurate to treat oral herpes and genital herpes as separate infections. Sometimes one virus infects the other place.

I'd rather my bf pay for sex than be dishonest with women when he really just wants sex. (yes I know women do this too).

"I'd rather my bf pay to rape a woman than lie his way into a consensual encounter. Also, mandatory disclaimer that women do bad things, too (because GOD FORBID I say anything negative about men without following it up by saying women suck, too)!"

Christ, these Pick-Mes are pathetic.

"Women do this too"

Um what? Women absolutely aren't going out in droves renting people to rape them. Or do they mean 'transwomen'? Because yeah, I'm sure many of them have no problem with it.

I think that comment refers to guys future faking when they just want sex, and then she added "women do that too" to avoid men screaming at her.

I personally know scores of women who wanting a ONS will when meeting someone at a bar talk about marriage and babies to persuade an otherwise very reluctant man to go home and have sex with her.

/s

I don’t think a woman has ever done that

There are male escorts for women, but it seems to be uncommon.

Before I learned about radical feminism, I thought I might do it someday if I wasn't able to find a partner, but it never sat right with me. Even though I didn't think prostitution was rape at the time.

I think she is trying to say that women have to lie and cajole and manipulate some poor man into having sex with them. /s Jeez the mental picture of satire this brought to mind ala the Dolly Parton table turning scene in 9 to 5. He’s just not that kind of a boy!

Ex sex worker here. Someone who gets repeats is someone who didnt end up on our blacklist usually. If he is kind, it means he understands it was a service and nothing more.

So much to unpack here...

First off, why is she a former sex worker? If its such an empowering, wonderful job, why did she stop doing it and move on to a boring normie job?

Second, the "blacklist" comment assumes that all sex workers compare notes and have the power to say "no" to abusive johns. We all know this isn't usually the case

[–] shewolfoffrance 16 points Edited

And pimps! Also, it’s not like legal, regulated Nevada brothels are nice places to work either. Besides the obvious fact that it’s paid rape, those establishments take an enormous cut of the women’s earnings and look for any excuse to fine them.

Last I heard they don't even let active employees visit town. They have to stay in the brothel. WTF.

I’ve read of some that try to confiscate workers IDs for the duration of their stay. The mega brothels in Germany are even worse.

The “blacklist” is total BS and they know it. Imagine saying a john is a Nice Guy because he managed to pay to rape women multiple times, as if he has to pass a background check to sexually access/abuse the most vulnerable women in society.

These people are full of shit. My stepmother was a prostitute and this is NOT what it's like.

won’t someone think of the poor porn addicted men 😢 they have a right to pussy!! don’t shame them!! most oppressed group of all time!!

/s

I hate this. It’s normalization of the most dangerous “profession.” It’s normalizing objectification.

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