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Posted May 11, 2021 by ALesbian in WomensLiberation
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DarthVelmaMay 11, 2021

I have often asked this question and never can seem to get a coherent answer.

If a white dude waits outside a bar for a black person to come out, any black person, doesn't matter who, so he can beat them up...that's a hate crime.

But if a dude waits outside a bar for a women to come out, any women, doesn't matter who, so he can rape her...the cops will blame her for drinking and ask what she was wearing.

Men hate us and no one gives a shit.

KBashMay 11, 2021(Edited May 11, 2021)

Crimes against women for being women have never been seen as hate crimes.

There’s often a retort that “men get raped too- even by women!”

Well, white men get killed too- even by black men! Straight men get killed too- even by gay men! It’s just not systemic, and as such is far less common than the reverse.

“But we don’t know that the motive for all this sexual harassment and assault and rape and domestic violence and femicide is hating women or just some mental issue or a personal beef with the victim unmotivated by any sex-based hate...”

Well, we don’t know that whites who kill blacks or straights who kill gays may not merely be mentally ill and their choice of victim is not based on hatred for that characteristic, but rather a random crime, or that they don’t have a personal beef with the victim unrelated to their being black or gay.

There are no good arguments for why women are not protected by hate crime legislation.

In my opinion, it’s both because they’ve so normalized male violence against women and don’t believe in or take seriously sexism, and also because they know if they prosecuted male violence as a hate crime, they’d spend their time doing nothing else.

So far they don’t even prosecute 99% of male rapists of women, so good luck trying to get them to see opposite sex rape as a crime at all, much less a hate crime.

BlackCirce🔮🐖🐖🐖May 11, 2021

Because if they made rape a hate crime they’d have to do something about it

Mother-of-RatsMay 11, 2021

Because it’s men (98.7% of the time) doing the raping and women (87% of the time) being raped. Men abusing women is the status quo and recognizing it as a hate crime would make a lot of people (men) uncomfortable and men being uncomfortable is the greatest crime against humanity that is humanly possible.

starstuffMay 11, 2021

because men write the laws

[Deleted]May 11, 2021

It truly is a man's world.

IronicWolfMay 12, 2021

Because there’s too much of it. You can’t even get rapes prosecuted as ordinary crimes. Once you start (correctly) making crime against women a hate crime then you have a lot of guilty men and that would require society really apply some introspection. If so many men do it, it can’t really be a crime because, hey, we’re Nice Guys. We must be: we remembered to ask our wives to buy our mothers some flowers for their birthdays. See how much we love women!

ellienoireMay 11, 2021(Edited May 11, 2021)

Have you ever called the cops for any reason? They are beyond useless at BEST, they will actively harm, rape, stalk, or kill you at worst.

You expect these woman-beating racist murderers to arrest anyone over rape, never mind as a hate crime? Rape is barely a crime at all. The majority of rapists will never see any consequences.

IrishTheFrenchieMay 12, 2021

But if a TIM gets raped by a man, it's a hate crime.

Go fucking figure.

[Deleted]May 12, 2021

Or a woman refuses to fuck a TIM, that’s a hate crime too in their lexicon.

[Deleted]May 12, 2021

Can’t have a hate crime when the victim isn’t counted as human.

zuubatMay 12, 2021(Edited May 12, 2021)

Read Tina Trent. Yeah, I know, she went off the deep end some time ago into the QAnon stuff. But she details how she was rebuffed when she tried to get stranger rape added to federal hate-crime legislation. Spoiler alert: the rebuff was not because the feds failed to consider stranger rape a hate crime. No, her initiative was rebuffed because there was just too darn much of that particular crime. It would overwhelm the system, they said.

EDIT: Here's the essay: https://tinatrent.com/rape-is-not-a-hate-crime-against-women/

Flower_tsujiMay 12, 2021

Because we live in a male dominated society- and more men would be in jail if them raping woman was a crime men as individuals also benefit from the fear of violence all woman face from the likely hood of sexual violence...after all I think 1-5 woman are raped on average in their lifetime ? Everyone woman knows someone who has been raped or sexual assaulter ... men/boys know this too that why they are so happy to send dick picks or send rape threats . . they know woman are scared and they reveal in it.

jelliknightMay 13, 2021

Targetting someone for violence based on their sex is not classed as a hate crime. Most protected characteristics can be the basis of a hate crime (sexual orientation, race, religion) but not sex.

The reason why is because if you made crimes against women hate crimes it would eclipse every other hate crime 1000 fold (basically every rape, sexual assault, and instance of domestic violence would count) and it would risk the foundations of society if we actually started to treat cromes against women as a class seriously.