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DiscussionWhat is the ideal family structure?
I've read so much about the myriad ways men fail in parenting and in "providing" that I'm questioning why it's so expected and romanticized that men are to play a vital role in raising children, or "fatherhood."
Because in the end it's almost always the woman who takes on the emotional burden, the hits to their careers, hobbies, relationships with others, not to mention the physical toll during pregnancy and the lifelong effects of giving birth, that many say that being a single mother is often better than staying with the father.
Would a society where mothers are mostly expected to do the childrearing with a strong support network of other women (family and/or friends/neighbors) and the government be ideal? Deer and cats and all manner of other mammals are single mothers just fine. I mean sure, we aren't deer or cats, we are complex human beings with complex feelings, I'm just bringing this up because perhaps expecting to "unsocialize" men from their aversion to parenthood is futile given that, in the end, we are still animals, and there are implications to our common ancestry with other mammals.
I wonder how "romance" in this hypothetical society would work. Would it generally be considered worth living with the father in this sort of society? Or would women live separately and go on outings with the man of their affections for leisure? But that just sounds so... shallow. Am I huffing copium that the "i'll be with you forever!" love you find in escapist stories could be replicable to some degree in the real world? I just find it so hard to believe, because obviously men should have the capacity to always want to love and care for those they love and find fulfillment and joy. But men like that seem so rare.
...Am I becoming a separatist?
Yes. You're not biologically female. That's it that's the post.
A man with extra estrogen in his system is no more female than a female weightlifter who took steroids is male.
A male who inversed his dick and got his balls emptied out and sewn into faux labia is no more female than a male dog that's been neutered becoming a female dog because of it.
Humans can't change sex. Do a 23andme without telling them you're transgender (because you're skewing the results) and watch. Actually, do it twice. One saying you are transgender and one without (control).
The "tF" in "MtF" sure does a shit ton of heavy lifting.
HRT by definition changes your sex? Lol, right, then stop calling all those postmenopausal women who are on HRT "Karens" - they're not even female anymore, rofl.
This is beyond stupid.
I'm pretty sure a DNA test of a tiM would result in a reaction like "wtf is up with him?" And not "clearly female uwu"
If it changes your sex then what sex is it changed to? Sex is a reproductive role. Role in the same sense of heterotroph or autotroph, an evolved physical function. When a man takes estrogen and develops superficial female characteristics, his reproductive role (sex) doesn’t change. It’s like if I painted myself green and had leaves surgically attached to me because I would prefer to be an autotroph. That’s fine. I am allowed to mentally reject heterotrophy. But I will not be capable of photosynthesis. If a man decides to cut off his genitals and grow breasts and not father children, that’s fine (especially the not fathering children part). He mentally rejects his reproductive role. But he will not then have female reproductive abilities.
That’s a lot of words to say ‘lesbians have to sleep with me’, sir.
Sir,
No one is "biologically the same as the guy next to" them. You are, however, still a guy.
Well I suppose everyone's androgynous in the womb because of all the sex hormones in there during your development then. Gee whiz
Cross sex hormones are not HRT. And no one changes sex.
But, if the statement were true, then there will be much inevitable detransition when cross sex hormones must be stopped because of the life threatening medical risks. If he’s a ‘woman’ because of taking female hormones, it will be interesting to see if his bp becoming dangerously high + doctor saying no more automatically makes him a man again, huh?
No it doesn't, good sir. When I took it, it didn't make me more female. Now that I don't, it doesn't make me less female.
Literally yes. You are a man just like any other man, you just fucked up your hormone levels+ destroyed your health with wrong sex hormones and got castrated. You have XY chromosomes in every single cell in your body. Human beings cannot change sex.
You were male raised, male bred, and when the time comes you'll be male dead