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DiscussionQuestioning popular romantic media
Posted September 7, 2024 by purple0637 in WomensLiberation

It's been a while since I've seen these so I could have completely gotten some things wrong but some stories that I'm not sure about are:

  • Fleabag: There's a power imbalance between the priest and the main character. There's the famous "kneel" scene where she confesses her problems about her life and then he tells her to kneel and he kisses her?

  • When Harry Met Sally: If I remember correctly, Harry keeps pestering Sally even though she's not interested. There's also a pivotal scene where Sally is crying and vulnerable and Harry kisses her and they have sex.

  • Waitress: I've only seen the musical so I don't know how it compares to the movie but the main character is pregnant and in an abusive relationship and has an affair with her male gynecologist. There's a power imbalance and the fact that the gynecologist is male makes me feel uneasy.

  • Benson and Stabler in Law & Order: Special Victims Unit: I haven't seen the entire show but from what I know, Elliot abandons Olivia for a decade and they had chemistry in the show but Elliot stays with his wife even though he's not really there for her due to his work. I feel bad for his wife and there's a lot of Benson/Stabler fans who are misogynistic towards her. So many people in the fandom spaces I'm in want those two to be together and I feel like I'm the odd one out.

What romances are you critical about? I know not all romance stories have to be completely healthy and you can still enjoy it or find it interesting. I did enjoy some of the stories above when I'd watched them.

12 comments

RusticTroglodyteOliver Twist MuppetOctober 26, 2023(Edited October 26, 2023)

"You're telling me I've been on hrt for years and had srs yet am the exact same biologically as the guy next to be?"

Literally yes. You are a man just like any other man, you just fucked up your hormone levels+ destroyed your health with wrong sex hormones and got castrated. You have XY chromosomes in every single cell in your body. Human beings cannot change sex.

You were male raised, male bred, and when the time comes you'll be male dead

crodishfuck this earthOctober 25, 2023(Edited October 25, 2023)

Yes. You're not biologically female. That's it that's the post.

A man with extra estrogen in his system is no more female than a female weightlifter who took steroids is male.

A male who inversed his dick and got his balls emptied out and sewn into faux labia is no more female than a male dog that's been neutered becoming a female dog because of it.

Humans can't change sex. Do a 23andme without telling them you're transgender (because you're skewing the results) and watch. Actually, do it twice. One saying you are transgender and one without (control).

The "tF" in "MtF" sure does a shit ton of heavy lifting.

VestalVirginOctober 25, 2023

HRT by definition changes your sex? Lol, right, then stop calling all those postmenopausal women who are on HRT "Karens" - they're not even female anymore, rofl.

This is beyond stupid.

DerpinaOctober 26, 2023

I'm pretty sure a DNA test of a tiM would result in a reaction like "wtf is up with him?" And not "clearly female uwu"

BlackCirce🔮 🐖 🐖 🐖 🐖October 25, 2023

If it changes your sex then what sex is it changed to? Sex is a reproductive role. Role in the same sense of heterotroph or autotroph, an evolved physical function. When a man takes estrogen and develops superficial female characteristics, his reproductive role (sex) doesn’t change. It’s like if I painted myself green and had leaves surgically attached to me because I would prefer to be an autotroph. That’s fine. I am allowed to mentally reject heterotrophy. But I will not be capable of photosynthesis. If a man decides to cut off his genitals and grow breasts and not father children, that’s fine (especially the not fathering children part). He mentally rejects his reproductive role. But he will not then have female reproductive abilities.

TheKnittaSpacePopeOctober 26, 2023

That’s a lot of words to say ‘lesbians have to sleep with me’, sir.

IrishTheFrenchienon-cis logicOctober 25, 2023

Sir,

No one is "biologically the same as the guy next to" them. You are, however, still a guy.

ghoul2October 25, 2023

Well I suppose everyone's androgynous in the womb because of all the sex hormones in there during your development then. Gee whiz

SecondSkinOctober 26, 2023

Cross sex hormones are not HRT. And no one changes sex.

But, if the statement were true, then there will be much inevitable detransition when cross sex hormones must be stopped because of the life threatening medical risks. If he’s a ‘woman’ because of taking female hormones, it will be interesting to see if his bp becoming dangerously high + doctor saying no more automatically makes him a man again, huh?

PracticalMagicOctober 26, 2023

No it doesn't, good sir. When I took it, it didn't make me more female. Now that I don't, it doesn't make me less female.

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