Any second wave feminists who lived through the women's liberation movement of the 60s-70s? Anyone who's well-informed on the subject?
I'm reading Going Out of Our Minds (1987) by utterly brilliant radical feminist Sonia Johnson. She argues that what effectively ended women's lib were efforts to get rights and equality through men and via male structures.
Begging men for our rights. "Won't you please just be a little nice this time, guys?"
This is why Sonia, who had been leading a grassroots fight for the Equal Rights Amendment, including a 37-day fast where she and other women nearly died, gave up on such activism. She says begging men for our rights is destructive and we'll never get anywhere doing it
I haven't yet read her next book, Wildfire, but in it, she pinpoints Roe v Wade in 1973 as the beginning of the end of the women's lib movement.
Men saw the women's libbers gaining ground. To placate us, they pretended to throw us a bone. Edit - ** This is not to say men "gave" us abortion. Obviously it was never theirs to give, and women were absolutely fighting for this. This was all pretense, them pretending to be on our side of "giving" us this right, and thus we should shut up asking for more. Also, yes, abortion benefits males. None of that changes Sonia's point. **
After Roe, the momentum of the movement dissolved. There was still so much more to change, but this "victory" tossed our way was so dazzling, so seductive.
Maybe the men were willing to see us as human after all? Maybe they'd be nice this time, and we could gain traction working through their systems?
Thinking they had won a victory, many women moved on and the beautiful energy of the movement fizzled out.
She also talks about this in her lecture here which is really a Must Listen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGDfCQmKuPA
So to women who were there or know about this era, is she right about what led to the demise of women's lib?
EDIT 2 -
The "women's movement" does not mean "women's liberation movement."
I think people are getting hung up on semantics and side issues here.
"The end of the women's liberation movement" does not mean there were no feminists after the 1970s. It does not mean there was no feminist progress.
It means there was a big difference in feminist politics in the 60s - 80s and what came after.
It would help if we had a definition of the women's liberation movement, but I argue that the women's lib movement did not exist when I was coming of age in the 90s and was long gone by the 00s.
Sure there were still feminists in those times.
But very few were fighting for liberation from patriarchy.
The radical / liberal feminist divide that was always there, grew wider, and the radicals lost a lot of ground.