Welcome to another discussion post for Right-Wing Women: The Politics of Domesticated Females by Andrea Dworkin.
In this post, we are discussing Chapter 3 Abortion.
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This chapter starts with talking about the time before Roe v Wade. It is somber and interesting, considering we are now considerably “back” in that same time — where abortion rights are determined by the states. Dworkin talks about how many women who got illegal abortions before Roe v Wade were actually already mothers, shattering the myth that women who get abortions are “shameless sl*ts” or “godless wh*res.”
I am reminded of the article “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”.
Highlighting how female humans are socialized to put other lives as more important and valuable than her own, and how women are brainwashed to think their destiny is motherhood.
Dworkin then has a section explaining the male ego and why men are against abortion:
Dworkin then goes into forced sex, especially in the confines of marriage. While reading this section, I kept in mind this was written in the 70s so I was curious and looked up marital rape laws in modern day times, and I made a post about existing marital rape laws here. There has been significant progress on this front since the '70s.
More explanations of the female socialization that all lives are more important than women's and how abortion restrictions play into that.
I just appreciated the "break the spirit" part.
I think we can actually see this happening in modern day times as a result of transgenderism and the rapid exposure of children to hardcore pornography on the internet. Young girls no longer have the sweet frilly fantasy of love and marriage to men, there is no more illusion of prince charming awaiting them when they grow up, there is violent sex and degradation. This is why I believe ROGD has happened in girls. For the first time in history, masses of girls were blinded by the misogyny of the real world waiting for them when they would become women, and they wanted to opt out.
The right tells women to be “good wives” and submit to sex (of course they paint this not as “sex” but as “being fruitful and multiplying” leaving out the part that for the man, sex conveniently remains the same enjoyable and carefree experience for him, whether or not he gets the woman pregnant), the left tells women to not be “prudes” and submit to sex.
This passage seriously reminded me of that one TIM, I think Andrea Long Chu, who said some shit about how "to be female is to be fucked." It's like he read this and took this passage positively or something. (More explanation on how transgenderism, especially for men who pretend to be women, is misogyny.)
Dworkin then goes into the 60s free love movement, which I found enlightening. Here Dworkin builds the stage for how the left views women as public property. She explained how young women revolted against their mothers—conservative women who thought it best for their daughters to be chaste until married and committed to one man, without explaining why—as regressive (I mean, it is, as Dworkin points out later) and joined the hippie movement instead. Dworkin shows how men destroyed the sexual revolution by focusing it on their dicks and male dominance. Men in the sexual revolution only viewed it for themselves in terms of being able to freely fuck women. Dworkin explains how the push for legal safe abortion on demand was largely meant for the benefit of men to encourage women to continue freely fucking them. The hippie communes were rife with sexual abuse. Once women began talking amongst each other about the sexual trauma they had experienced within the free love movement, they began to revolt. The feminist movement that then sparked in the 70s was focused women's right to bodily autonomy, and the penis-for-brains men in the '60s movement filled with rage when they realized that women's access to abortion did not equate to more women freely having sex with them. Women realized part of the sexual revolution was that they didn't have to have sex with men. Que the mantrums. That is why men stopped caring about abortion access, and abortion access eventually became a state issue instead of the once noble goal of safe and legal abortions for all women in the United States. This section was a fascinating and infuriating read, and shows how little all political classes of men view women's humanity.
Dworkin concludes the chapter by wrapping up on how right-wing women consider private rapes with only one man in the confines of marriage as “the better deal.”
The part about how no girl would accept the hundred million lessons on how to be a girl, or want boys to like her, if she knew what she was for, was so relatable. I remember thinking that guys liked me as a person, thought I was interesting when they showed interest in me, and being bitterly disappointed when I found out that was wrong. But of course I internalized it, thought it meant I wasn't good enough. It's so effective, to have women riddled with insecurity makes us much easier to manipulate.
I can see how the free love movement would have been appealing after so long of women's sexuality being repressed and controlled. Of course men didn't care at all about women being able to finally explore our own sexuality, they took advantage of the movement to shape our sexuality into what suited them. We have the extreme of that now with things like pornhub, only fans and sex work is work mentality. I find it hard to imagine what will come next. How can we get men - and women for that matter- to see women as fully human if they are growing up on media and in a culture which so thoroughly trains us to see women as objects?
Same here. I remember finding this a devastating lesson when I went to University, after attending an all-girls Convent school until age 18. It was my first time really socialising with boys properly and it was devastating. One after another they would seem to want to be "friends" with me. Then when I didn't want to sleep with them they would drop me abruptly and not want to see me again. The only way I could make sense of it was, exactly as you say, to assume I was fundamentally inadequate in some way.
That is a really good question. I feel like documentaries like Killing Us Softly might help open some eyes. I think also just generally pointing out how fucked up shit is, constantly pointing it out and saying how it's not okay, helps too. Other than that, I'm really not sure.
I think Brainwashed does this as well with many more contemporary examples. Something that relies on advertising is less persuasive in today's streaming content world. We barely see 'ads' anymore. Women Art Revolution is another one from the art world specifically.
I think seeing how women responded, how strong and widespread the Women's Liberation Movement was in the day--before the internet--is also very eye opening, like She's Beautiful When She is Angry or The Glorias.