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Thousands of people shared their Peak Trans stories on r/GenderCritical before trans activists managed to pressure Reddit into censoring us. If you shared before, please share again.


Many of us accepted the claims of trans activists, wanting to be tolerant and kind, until we really listened to what they were saying and compared it to our own knowledge and experience.

  • Can "woman" be just an identity, divorced from biology? Can penises be female? Can men give birth? Do trans women really have periods?

  • Is it fair for males to compete with girls and women in women's sports?

  • Should people be forced to "accept" that trans women are women, and be compelled to say so? Should people really be censored for disagreeing, or saying anything contrary about it?

  • Should women be called "cis women" even when they don't identify with sexist gender roles, just because they aren't trans? Doesn't the claim that gender is some kind of natural, inborn psychological phenomenon contradict decades of feminists saying gender is a limiting social construct that is forced on us by society?

  • Should girls who don't like dolls or dresses be treated with double mastectomies and lifelong hormones? Should we be cavalier about prescribing puberty blockers to children when they can cause life-long health problems?

  • Should women be shamed as trans-exclusionary for talking about our reproductive health and anatomy? Are "pussy hats" transphobic?

  • Is it acceptable for lesbians to be bullied for not wanting to have relationships with trans women? Doesn't the struggle against the "cotton ceiling" contradict everything we've been saying about enthusiastic consent and rape culture?

  • Should women be denied the option of not seeing a penis in a women's shower room? Is it really transphobia that makes women alarmed at seeing males in women-only spaces? Is it actually transphobic for women to not want trans women in women-only rape crisis centers, domestic violence shelters, or prisons?

  • Should women never be allowed to exclude males from any women's spaces, groups, or events? Are people who disagree with what trans activists say really all "trans exclusionary radical feminists" or "TERFs," even when they aren't feminists or trans-exclusionary?

What is peak trans?

Many of us called this “peak trans”—that moment when you realize “trans rights” are not really about supporting a marginalized population, but about undermining the rights of girls and women and bullying people into accepting transgender ideology. –Thistle Peterson: How I Became the Most Hated Folk Singer in Madison

Are you ready to reach peak trans? Or you just want to know what those "TERFs" you've heard about are saying so you can debunk them? Read on... and get ready to add your own story!


NOTE: Please reserve this space for peak trans stories only! Brief messages of welcome are fine, but if something here inspires you to more discussion, please make a new post.

Thousands of people shared their Peak Trans stories on r/GenderCritical before trans activists managed to pressure Reddit into censoring us. If you shared before, please share again. * [Peak Trans Reprise I](https://www.ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/121/peak-trans-reprise-tell-your-story-here) * [Peak Trans Reprise II](https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/5253/peak-trans-reprise-ii-tell-your-story-here) ----- **Many of us accepted the claims of trans activists, wanting to be tolerant and kind, until we really listened to what they were saying and compared it to our own knowledge and experience.** - Can "woman" be just an identity, divorced from biology? Can penises be female? Can men give birth? Do trans women really have periods? - Is it fair for males to compete with girls and women in women's sports? - Should people be forced to "accept" that trans women are women, and be compelled to say so? Should people really be censored for disagreeing, or saying anything contrary about it? - Should women be called "cis women" even when they don't identify with sexist gender roles, just because they aren't trans? Doesn't the claim that gender is some kind of natural, inborn psychological phenomenon contradict decades of feminists saying gender is a limiting social construct that is forced on us by society? - Should girls who don't like dolls or dresses be treated with double mastectomies and lifelong hormones? Should we be cavalier about prescribing puberty blockers to children when they can cause life-long health problems? - Should women be shamed as trans-exclusionary for talking about our reproductive health and anatomy? Are "pussy hats" transphobic? - Is it acceptable for lesbians to be bullied for not wanting to have relationships with trans women? Doesn't the struggle against the "cotton ceiling" contradict everything we've been saying about enthusiastic consent and rape culture? - Should women be denied the option of not seeing a penis in a women's shower room? Is it really transphobia that makes women alarmed at seeing males in women-only spaces? Is it actually transphobic for women to not want trans women in women-only rape crisis centers, domestic violence shelters, or prisons? - Should women never be allowed to exclude males from any women's spaces, groups, or events? Are people who disagree with what trans activists say really all "trans exclusionary radical feminists" or "TERFs," even when they aren't feminists or trans-exclusionary? ##What is peak trans? > Many of us called this “peak trans”—that moment when you realize “trans rights” are not really about supporting a marginalized population, but about undermining the rights of girls and women and bullying people into accepting transgender ideology. [–Thistle Peterson: How I Became the Most Hated Folk Singer in Madison](https://archive.is/o/XVLl1/https://uncommongroundmedia.com/thistle-pettersen-how-i-became-the-most-hated-folk-singer-in-madison/) Are you ready to reach peak trans? Or you just want to know what those "TERFs" you've heard about are saying so you can debunk them? Read on... and get ready to add your own story! ----- NOTE: Please reserve this space for peak trans stories only! Brief messages of welcome are fine, but if something here inspires you to more discussion, please make a new post.

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[–] [Deleted] 56 points (+56|-0)

Haven't posted my peak trans story yet so here goes:

I peaked about 5 months ago after detransitioning (ftmtf). The time I spent idenitifying as trans was the most depressing time of my life; my anorexia got worse, I developed a porn addiction and repeatedly got groomed by older men online to feel 'valid'. It got so miserable I tried looking to see if there was anyway to stop being trans and found out about detransitioning. I still felt gross about being a woman and most of my TRA friends stopped talking to me so I started browing r/detrans for support. Through that subreddit I found gender critical feminism and it all just made so much sense. I was hurt so bad by transgenderism and it's community that I was relieved to find a space where I wouldn't be shunned for having GC views. I'm so thankful for radical feminism as it taught me being a woman doesn't mean being perfect or feminine, it just means being me. I no longer obsess over my appearance, I'm finally enjoying life and I've fully recovered from my anorexia.

[–] hmimperialtortie 13 points (+13|-0)

Thank you for sharing that. I’m very glad you recovered and are happy!

[–] Kevina 9 points (+9|-0)

Welcome! Do you still lurk there? I've many times wanted to ask some of the posters there whether they know about Ovarit but I'm not allowed to post there and I don't want to do anything to endanger the sub.

[–] RealMapelFlavour 39 points (+39|-0)

I had my first peak trans laugh when a TIF posted a message about her university's new gender neutral bathrooms and asked that students who aren't trans refrain from using them.

[–] Carrots90 7 points (+7|-0)

But when we say they should have a trans br we are ‘othering’ them.

[–] sarahsmile 36 points (+37|-1)

When graduates of my Seven Sisters undergrad were chided for saying "sisters." See also: admissions policy permitting males to attend said undergrad.

[–] lulululululu 28 points (+28|-0)

HAHAHA i went to a women’s college too and I came here to comment this but you already did so I don’t have to!

I graduated before TIMs were allowed in, so I don’t know how that’s affected the school, but all the TIFs there demanding to be called men but also demanding to attend a women’s college completely broke my brain...

[–] bellatrixbells 15 points (+15|-0)

What the actual mind clusterfuck.

[–] lulululululu 19 points (+19|-0)

Yeah. One argument that I heard frequently that really broke my brain was that the college wasn't actually intended to be a women's college, it was intended to be an "all oppressed genders college" but since people didn't know about TIFs back then, women were the only oppressed gender around to be admitted... but since we know about TIFs now, we should let them in as an oppressed gender. LMAO.

In reality, I think they just liked the romantic and sexual attention they got for being some of the few "men" around so were grasping at straws to justify being "literally men" at a women's college.

[–] sarahsmile 12 points (+12|-0)

I heard there were kerfuffles over TIFs wanting to interview prospective students. I mean...honestly. Transfer if it's that important to you to be male!

[–] adun 6 points (+6|-0)

all the TIFs there demanding to be called men but also demanding to attend a women’s college completely broke my brain...

This is something I see a lot. I feel like the ultraliberal kind of TIFs seems to think they can have their cake and eat it, too. Probably because they recognise what BS transitioning is and that it doesn't save them from people treating them like crap for being female, but they hold onto their super special identities anyways because it's so much more interesting than just a boring old woman going through boring old misogyny. This brand of TIF also tends to be all about "genderfuckery" which means they don't even make an attempt to "pass", leading to more frustrations than usual over people not being able to delude themselves that they're the opposite sex.

I definitely prefer them to the women filled to the brim with internalised misogyny who will rush to proclaim #notLikeOtherGirls for male approval, but that at least seems more straightforward and backwards in the usual ways we're familiar with, than this.

[–] zuubat 3 points (+3|-0)

Oh, yeah, that NYT story of the TIFs having been accepted at a women's college because they were, you know, women, and after "transitioning" demanding a thousand-and-one ridiculous accommodations from the other women: students, faculty, staff, and administrators. AND GETTING THEM!!!

I all-capped the second clause b/c for me that was the most demoralizing thing: Even for pretend men, the women fell all over themselves to be nice but no matter how nice it was still not enough. A few women desisted, and they were doxxed (or whatever the IRL version of that is) so badly that they declined to give their names to the NYT.

[–] sarahsmile 26 points (+26|-0)

I'm old (50), so the whole thing seemed even more insane to me. I honestly couldn't believe it and wrote a letter to the President telling her that the school should just be intellectually honest and go co-ed.

[–] Alice_eve 15 points (+15|-0)

Same here sister. Though I was just starting out at a seven sisters school and was shocked we had to say "sibs" instead.

[–] lulululululu 15 points (+15|-0)

<3

Also went to a women’s college where we had to say “sibs” and I’m really happy to know other people were feeling the same way and see them here :)

[–] babyradfemme 2 points (+2|-0)

used to attend a (supposedly quite feminist) single-sex high school, and heard about how the teachers apparently had been told to start calling us 'students' instead of 'girls'. So obnoxious. Good thing none of the teachers took it seriously lmao

[–] meanie 15 points (+15|-0)

Another Seven Sister! I was in attendance when the policy to allow males went into effect. I was stupid enough to be in favor of it at the time.

I slowly outgrew that way of thinking. I hope others are doing the same.

[–] sarahsmile 11 points (+11|-0)

I don't blame you - it's hard to stand alone on those campuses, it seems (less so when I was there). The rhetoric about inclusion and kindness has really been coopted by these people.

[–] meanie 19 points (+19|-0)

I didn't really know how to interpret everything back then. All I ever did then was kinda push back on the more extreme ideas that seemed silly to me (validity of ze/zir pronouns, pussyhats = transphobia, males can be socialized as females on the inside). But that was more because these ideas were idiotic, not because I was critical of the almighty T yet.

The T would've never bothered me, probably, if I hadn't been exposed to the keyboard warrior cult in college. Everything they touched turned to shit. They actively impeded any ability for students to collectively organize and create real change or build community, because they were tyrannical bullies with no social skills who harassed any target they could contrive an accusation about. Professors were scared shitless of offending these morons.

I really don't want to be a TERF but once you've witnessed how the gender essentialist ideology corrupts a woman's sense of self, it's hard to not call it what it is (sexism, stupidity, mass hysteria).

[–] Kevina 35 points (+35|-0)

I peaked when I heard about the trans"girls" in Connecticutt winning women's sporting events at the high school level. I'm like WUT? They're just CALLING themselves girls, and they're then allowed to run in GIRLS track events? I was like wtf? Have people lost their minds? And then I watched some of the races that featured these "transgirls" and it was like holy fuck, the looks on the faces of the girls after losing to these boys was heartbreaking. And then one of the boys had the audacity to say something to the effect of "well i guess the girls who lost should just train harder".

As a woman who played a lot of sports, and for whom sports had a very lasting and meaningful impact on my life, this sent me right over the edge.

[–] llkit 4 points (+4|-0)

Yup. Sport is often not high on the list of activities of folk into identity politics. Spent enough time in those circles.

[–] boudica 31 points (+31|-0)

Like a lot of peaked women, I was originally completely down with the trans rights movement. The movement I originally knew in the early 2000s was focused on equal rights for housing, employment, etc. and protection against violence. When requested (not demanded) to use specific pronouns, I obliged out of solidarity. I empathized with the plight of trans persons, and even remember using the argument, "What if you woke up one morning with the opposite sex genitals? How awful and weird would that be?!" (I now fully realize how ridiculous that explanation is, but I still see it used by TRAs every day...) But this was also back when you could still explain things like "a transwoman is a male who identifies as female" in public online arenas without activists going bonkers on you for your ~hate speech and misgendering~ Basically, things were a lot more logical and more based in reality back then.

Then came the 2010s... the hundreds of genders and made-up sexualities on Tumblr, the ridiculous controversy over "transphobic pussy hats" at the Women's March, the explosion of "transbians," and of course Bruce Jenner. Thing was, originally there was a discourse allowed around these subjects. I remember healthy debates over the "pussy hats" that now would be deleted within minutes on Reddit, Twitter, etc. Watching these kinds of discussions get silenced, deleted, and users banned was a big part of my peaking.

The other big part was just knowing, watching, hearing, and following the trans activists themselves. I've been on the internet for a long time, and I've seen some shit... this new trans phenomenon is really nothing much different from previous internet identity phenomena. Others have made the connections better, but there's a lot to be said about how similar the various trans communities are to earlier internet communities like furries, otherkin, fandom (lots of TIF crossover with big fandoms like Harry Potter, Dr. Who, Supernatural, yaoi, etc.), pro ana/eating disorder, munchausens-by-internet characters, internet death-fakers, catfishing, etc. I watched so many early internet lolcows eventually become trans, and it did nothing but convince me this is all just another trend and the perfect way for attention-seekers to fulfill their wildest narcissistic dreams. They became "trans" when it became popular, just like they self-diagnosed with every new trendy disease.

At first I tried to convince myself it was just a few rotten apples, but after watching the rotten apple pile get bigger and bigger and bigger, I couldn't lie to myself anymore. The trans activists that pushed me over the edge were Riley J Dennis, for introducing me to the "cotton ceiling," and then in late 2017 came the trashfire of Jonathan Yaniv... after that peak, there was no return.

I look back on my previous acceptance of trans activism, and I think I'm able to finally voice how I actually felt back then. I was sympathetic to TIMs and TIFs because I saw them as "Kinsey 9s" that were more comfortable living as the opposite sex in a homophobic world. I couldn't admit that back then, but I see it now. And the reason I see it now is because of the straight "trans" people, who have never made any sense to me. One of my earliest "Hey, hold on here" moments was first learning about transbians... the idea never sat right with me, especially as a woman who has had numerous gross straight men joke about how they're "totally lesbians, too, har har!!" All I see are men once again trying to force themselves on the most unattainable of all women - lesbians - and I see a bunch of straight people pushing their way into the gay rights movement. Once you see the truth of what's really going on, you can never go back.

[–] freesmells 8 points (+8|-0)

Lol, your post made me remember Chris-chan. Or should I say, Christine-chan. God, what a trainwreck.

[–] AmyHousewine 3 points (+3|-0)

Can you talk more about the overlap you see between fandoms and trans? I’ve never been deep into any particular fandoms, but on the edges of some: Star Trek and BSG are the major ones. Now, never to the level of costumes or conventions, so perhaps I’ve just been far too shallow in those waters. But I don’t immediately see the connection with fandoms for HP, Dr. Who, etc and trans - unless it’s people who prefer living in non-reality, the type who get personally angry if their favourite FICTIONAL character is criticized, etc?

Anyway, interested in learning more.

[–] boudica 2 points (+2|-0)

This is just based on my experience, but I mostly see the cross-over with the "fangirls" in those fandoms who are or were obsessed with MLM pairings. I spent quite a bit of time on places like LiveJournal in the early 2000s and remember being inundated with fanfics and fanart about Harry x Draco, Sirius x Lupin, etc. in Harry Potter communities, "Wincest" in Supernatural (and later Castiel added into the mix), and that was around the time that Matt Smith and David Tennant were the Doctor on Dr. Who, so there were similar types of "yaoi" writings and artwork about them.

Quite a few people have noticed that many of the TIFs on the internet (especially on Tumblr) were also usually heavily involved with MLM artwork and fanfic within these fandoms. There has been speculation in the past (before genderism took off) about how women and girls are drawn to yaoi and MLM stuff because it presents a "safe" and "nonthreatening" type of sexuality for them to enjoy. It's a similar argument to why women were originally kind of okay with TIMs in women's spaces, because we thought they were HSTSs, and thus gay men who we think of as much less threatening. But it also relates to internalized misogyny and women who find other women to be threatening. With MLM pairings, there is no woman to threaten the fan's attraction - she doesn't have another woman to compare herself to. You saw this a bit in those general fandoms, too, where the fans would react negatively to a new female character being introduced to Supernatural, or how pretty much any girl who was even hinted at being paired with Harry Potter (especially Cho Chang) was not welcomed very warmly by fans. (There are other reasons, such as bad writing, for these reactions, but it's telling that female characters are usually the ones who have to fight to be accepted by the fandom.)

ANYWAYS the idea of these "nonthreatening" MLM pairings seems to have taken hold in some of these fangirls' minds, and it's almost as if they are trying to turn themselves into the male characters they love so much. There are some imageboard threads that look into this phenomenon in more detail (see: "fakebois" or "transtrenders"), where some of these women started off as fangirls who would cosplay as male characters, take photos with MLM themes (though usually with another women in "crossplay"), and then eventually started transitioning. This is where I first started to see a lot of the "gay" TIFs.

I think what you said about "people who prefer living in non-reality" is also right on the nose. That's an issue that I think we should be taking a look at on a deeper level with all trans-identified people who "discovered their identity" on the internet.

[–] AmyHousewine 1 points (+1|-0)

Thanks for this - I appreciate the explanation. That's not an area of fandom I was ever in, and the insights here make a lot of sense.

[–] Amareldys 0 points (+0|-0)

Waking up with a dick would be awful because I'm in a heterosexual relationship and many of my other life choices have been influenced by navigating the world as a woman and it's too late to go back and change things.

If I'd been born with a dick, however, then fine. Whatevs. There are a lot of different choices I would have made.

[–] Ave_Lucifuge 30 points (+30|-0) Edited

I started peaking years ago when I began reading about TIMs without bottom surgery complaining about not being allowed into women only spaces, and then the whole "truscum" bullshit. Alarm bells were going off that they didn't respect natal women as much as we were expected to respect them.

I toppled over the edge when I was lurking Kiwi Farms, mostly watching people like Russell Greer and other grody misogynists, and came across threads for "Rat Kings" (infamous online TIMs). The amount of entitlement, rape rhetoric, and misogyny IN THEIR OWN words pushed me quickly from trans supporter to proud GC. I thought trans women suffered from body dysmorphia, not delusions about being biologically a woman because they enjoy deep throating and princess dresses, or whatever. I felt completely duped and betrayed.

[–] boudica 18 points (+18|-0) Edited

My peaking story is also highly inspired by lurking around the internet and seeing the repulsive behavior of TIMs. Nothing peaks someone faster than seeing the true face of most of these so-called activists.

Also, noticing the extreme similarities between the AGPs dominating current trans discourse and early 2000s internet furries & 4chan porn addicts. They are literally the same people, honestly, they've just found a new fantasy world to escape into - and this time people are bending over backwards to feed the delusion for fear of being seen as unwoke.

[–] Ave_Lucifuge 9 points (+9|-0)

That's an excellent point. Without the cover of body dysmorphia, transtrenders are just one step removed from Otherkin. It's unbelievable.

[–] LasagnaRossa 29 points (+29|-0)

I peaked again some weeks ago, after a realization. That all this gender craze, these wishy-washy definitions about what constitutes a man and a woman, is happening in western countries only, where women have almost reached equality.

Where were these people when women were a second class citizen due to their sex?

Where are these people in other countries, where girls get murdered when they are still in the womb? Where they are given as child spouses to someone twenty years older than them? Where they get their vulvas shut and all libido lost?

Women have been discriminated for centuries just because of their appearance and now, suddenly, the very reasons they were "the other class" don't matter anymore? Now, suddenly, society can't tell what's a woman anymore? Are they kidding me?!

[–] adun 10 points (+10|-0) Edited

is happening in western countries only, where women have almost reached equality.

Women are not even close to reaching equality, and I suggest you look into studies about how women are viewed, the amount of sexual harrassment and rape women deal with from men, the kinds of anxieties women still face, the expectations men have from women in relationships, the kinds of porn men watch and who still runs the world if you seriously think this. Just because women are not slaves for men anymore doesn't mean we are in any way seen as equal. The reason all this is happening in Western countries is precisely because women are unequal, which is why there's such a huge boom in women trying to escape their normalised inferior role by identifying as superior men. They know that (liberal) feminism has abandoned them, because it's more concerned with trying to make women feel empowered and liberated for doing the same misogynistic things that were always expected of women. Because this inequality is more subtle now, liberal women are trying desperately to fit into a patriarchal world so they wouldn't step on men's toes, and men are trying desperately to redirect female rights into being all about pandering to them, like everything else. Hence, gender. Liberalism is now selling women the notion that women existing as sex objects for men is liberating and empowering as long as women like the approval this gets them for not pushing back against the patriarchal status quo.

Where are these people in other countries, where girls get murdered when they are still in the womb? Where they are given as child spouses to someone twenty years older than them? Where they get their vulvas shut and all libido lost?

You think women in Western countries don't suffer sexual harassment, rape, dehumanisation and exclusion every day just because of who they are?

[–] llkit 2 points (+3|-1)

Almost reached equality in a man's world. I do think dwindling resources and Late stage capitalism are contributing factors. Those who were giving some room at the top table note want to grab it back.

[–] distortedlinds 27 points (+27|-0) Edited

for me it was more of a gradual thing, I can't pinpoint that one thing.

I guess it was when I lost male 'friends' on facebook for sharing that ACTUAL REAL news article that reported on "Father who raped own child will receive tax-payer funding for gender transition and move to women's prison" and THESE were the replies:

  • "Goodbye "distortedlinds" (real name removed). You’re an opinion looking for a reason. You’re not thinking this through and it’s turning you into something ugly." (I have to add I DO NOT even remotely personally know this person at all, we've spoken twice in person about art for 5 minutes, thats it. Yet he claims he knows me?! What? This sincerely bothered me)
  • "I hate to do this as well, but I can't get with this anti trans BS. It's hurtful to the lgbtq community and personally I'm disappointed at this. Someone being trans doesn't make them a sex offender or a pedophile. I have many close trans friends. I'm sorry, for such a talented artist you are using a giant brush and just one color here. Take care!"
  • "Yeah SMH sorry "distortedlinds", I'm disappointed by this."

...?? not once did they address the article I shared. I have found that the wokeians who won't question the agenda at hand are the ones that will attack who I AM, and not the REAL issue at hand here, they insist on talking about my behavior (what? sticking up for womens rights??) and try and tell me I am wrong meanwhile providing NO evidence (seriously, not a single ounce of a legitimate argument!!) on why I could be wrong. They ALWAYS classically name call or do this mental game that tries and makes ME feel bad/guilt trip for being a pro-science/biology realistic human being. holy hell, that was the biggest "what the fuck is going on?"

here's another one: this one was in reply to this.

  • "What? Are you serious? This is ridiculous, and you should actually speak and listen to some trans people rather than judge based on ridiculous assumptions put forth by fearful straight people. This is so ignorant and awful, I can't believe you shared this."
  • "No, "distortedlinds" You’re going down a path that’s flawed and wrong. You’re becoming something you were previously against. Please rethink this journey you’ve put yourself on." (this is that same dude who claims he knows who I am at my core mentioned above, we barely know each other.) I am fuckin' GOOD, I do not need those people in my life. I will not sit complacent in female voices being shut down and banned. I will not sit silent with men competing in womens sports. I will not sit and watch men slam open the doors to our bathrooms and get to flaunt their fetish. I won't sit here and watch mens feelings be more important than WOMENS.

They (TRA's) want fantasy/fetish/sissy to be real life, meanwhile us REALITY fact based biological scientific humans who have boundaries, are living among them. We are truly fucked, the world is under an evil spell that is secretly trying to stomp out womankind/females.

Here's this one, from my now ex-best FEMALE(!!) friend:

  • "I’m worried that you’re alienating everyone with this new campaign. I hope it’s not too forward to ask, but what has happened? Are you hurting? The posts on Twitter read like you’re trying to ruffle feathers, draw a line in the sand, and build a wall."
  • "I guess by ruffle feathers it reminds me of how people find an identity and build a wall. For example, and I am not putting this on you, it reminds me of when I did the born again thing when I left home and was looking for acceptance. I drank the cool-aid to the point where I was becoming hateful of everyone and everything that wasn’t saved. I was deep in that non denomination. It wasn’t until I realized how unchrist like it was to hate others that I stepped away. If this is what you need to do to protect yourself. I’m letting you know the rhetoric is alienating. I'm trying to be a friend." (blood...boiling)
[–] SilkySquid 23 points (+23|-0)

Someone being trans doesn't make them a sex offender or a pedophile

OMG, as a response to you linking that article?!?! Yeah, that's TRUE... but someone who is trans being a sex offender and pedophile DOES make that person a sex offender and pedophile!

[–] distortedlinds 13 points (+13|-0)

yeah....I mean, their reactions are still shocking to me. THAT is the hill they will die on? It speaks volumes to me on what they are okay with. Horrifying.

[–] gloryinthemelee 10 points (+10|-0)

Yep. We all want everyone to be happy and healthy, except for predators. Self ID opens the gates to predators. It isn't well thought through.

[–] adun 7 points (+7|-0)

Here's the thing about this: no, being trans doesn't make one a sex offender or a pedophile. Neither does being a man. But the fact that they are men puts them into that dangerous bracket where the likelihood of harming or distressing women is far higher than it should be.

Every time TRAs try to pull the "You think all trans people are criminals, you bigot!" shit, push back with "So if we exclude men from female spaces, does that mean you think all men are criminals by virtue of being men?".

[–] gloryinthemelee 11 points (+11|-0)

Sorry your friends & acquaintances are under-theorised and over-sensitive.

[–] distortedlinds 10 points (+10|-0)

don't be, it's okay honestly. I appreciate your words. I am thrilled to know I've done my research and know I am on the 'right side of history.' I feel proud. I cannot change the actions of others, thats not my job. Its weird, friendship means everything to me, but losing my FEMALE best friend over this has been the easiest. Because in my heart of hearts, I know what I am doing is in the best interest of females/the future. I am okay with this, honestly. I will go down on this hill. cue braveheart's FREEDOMMMMM type shit lol :) seriously though, I know what I am doing is where real honor is.

[–] [Deleted] 25 points (+25|-0)

About 3 years ago, the women's only swimming pond in Hampstead Heath changed the rules to allow TIM's in. Bear in mind there's a men's pond and a mixed-sex pond, so TIM's already had 2 places they could go swim.

I remember being on Twitter and seeing people upset about it, particularly as some women wouldn't swim with men for religious reasons (Jewish and Muslim women were mentioned) and they felt that they were being pushed out of a public space. Something inside me just snapped. I remember thinking, why can't the TIM's use the mixed-sex pond? Now they can go in all 3, and the women who would only swim in the female-only one now have nowhere for them to go. It just seemed so unfair.

Once you peak and your eyes open, you can never go back. I will never accept a male in female spaces, ever.

[–] anonwasawoman 3 points (+3|-0)

Was that the one where the women organized and invaded the men's pool and were removed without the point of their protest addressed?

[–] gloryinthemelee 20 points (+20|-0) Edited

A male friend told me that "fa'afafine and Mollies demonstrate the historical variety of women". Historical variety of women!

No, they don't.

Edit: I'm still mad.

[–] Tsipora 18 points (+18|-0)

Almost 4 years ago (early 2017), I had vaguely heard about transsexuals and I didn't think much of it. I didn't even know about gender at all.

So I was and still am a huge name nerd and came across this blog that listed what they called "gender neutral names for nbs". I ignored the nb part because like I said I didn't know what that was and just thought it was some English slang I didn't know about, as I'm ESL. The issue is that they were mostly male names, and a lot were 100% male names (think Adam for example). So I typed this long reply saying that wanting to share unisex names was awesome but that the author was mostly wrong and should check their sources, also how it was fine for both boys and girls to have more "feminine" names too because it felt like they were glorifying masculinity.

I listed all the names that were wrong and looked up actual unisex names, added the names' meanings, story behind them etc. Took me a bit more than an hour.

I came back to their blog a few hours later and they had deleted my huge comment and added something along the lines of "to the condescending person who typed a long comment for nothing, you wasted your time, it's too bad! Now fuck off you transphobic scum". That was the first time I was called transphobic and I had absolutely no idea why. And that's when I've read about gender and stuff and eventually became GC two years later.

[–] Kevina 11 points (+11|-0)

Jfc these people. Ya, Carol used to be a very popular men's name. Bill, Billie, or some variation of it used to be a very popular girls/woman's name in the south. Like if someone said "My Aunt Bill" no one would bat an eye.

[–] gloryinthemelee 8 points (+8|-0)

Beverly and Kim are two names that just switched from male to female very suddenly (I think in the 60s).

[–] JooskeRunneboom 5 points (+5|-0)

Laurie/Lauren, Kelly, Lindsey, Ashley, Brook, Shannon, Quinn, Skylar, Allison, Sidney, Aubrey, Cassidy, Dana, Blair, Harley, Kelsey, Leigh

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