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GC Social MediaHow many times are we going to have to see this?
Posted December 20, 2022 by penelopekitty in GenderCritical

Edit: This post is NOT about whether or not we can clock trans people. It's about how every prominent detransitioner never misses the chance to take potshots at the very people who have working for years to try to help them and elevate their voices. It's shitty.

How many times will we have to see this? Tulip and Chloe Cole stirring the shit. A few months ago it was Helena.

Detrans people are generally not in line with feminism or GC thought. Don't forget there is a reason they transitioned in the first place. We all know there are numerous comorbidities associated with this including a high level of personality disorders.

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gentooDecember 20, 2022

Sorry, I don't understand why this is offensive, outside of playing a mean experiment on someone. I'd appreciate it if you could explain.

I'm personally someone who 'can't always tell.' I can clock obvious TIMs in-person, but I struggle with posed photographs and TIFs. I knew a TIF for over a year and didn't realize until I realized she had phalloplasty scars, for example. I've just always been bad with faces and body language to begin with, and a lot of the signals people talk about - like posture or a large head - are things that I personally feel self-conscious about since I have them too. Detransitioners and gender non-conforming people are even more difficult for me, because the effects of surgery or hormones and gender presentation just add more noise to the signals I'm receiving.

I'm not saying that just because I can't tell, other people can't tell. But the way I'm reading this tweet, I do think Tulip has a point - we shouldn't assume that everyone has infallible biological sex radar. It's great if you do, but I think we should be careful about spreading the generalization that every woman is always right about other peoples' sex because it's only going to lead to potentially hurtful mistakes. You don't want me thinking I can clock TIMs, for example. I'd be letting every creep off the block into the women-only spa.

'You can't always tell' makes sense to me because that's the kind of world I live in. I'd like a world where I don't have to be able to tell.

penelopekitty [OP]December 20, 2022

My post wasn't about passing. It's about detransitioners always taking shots at the very people who have spent at least a decade trying to help them.

gentooDecember 20, 2022

Thanks for the explanation, appreciate the edit clarifying that it was the behavior you found offensive.